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which is stronger, good or evil? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3620.msg33169#msg33169
« on: March 05, 2010, 03:31:53 am »
knock yourselves out
and evil doers, answer truthfully, i know its hard for you, but just try...
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Re: which is stronger, good or evil? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3620.msg33189#msg33189
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2010, 05:04:02 am »
IMO, I don't think it's imbalanced. Both sides have about all things needed, just the matter of more and less. For example, many argued Good has no perm control(PC). It's true that Evil has great PC, but Good has Trident (you can use any mark, right?). Moreover, only Good has most healing (Heal, Miracle, Black Hole) while Evil has little (vampires, Granite Skin, can't heal much). And, Time has an advantage over any other elements -- Hasten and Eternity. They make strategy-building much easier and don't have to worry about deck out. Good can develop a deck out strategy while Evil can't.

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Re: which is stronger, good or evil? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3620.msg33193#msg33193
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2010, 05:11:52 am »
I think a simple swap is time and earth. As I've already argued (and won?) in the other topic, many of the elements seem to be neutral and could go either way.

Swapping time and earth would be much more balanced, imo. As it is, good has no way to protect permanents, and no way other than trident (and really only those in water can use that anyway) to destroy them. Evil has every other permanent control card in the game, not to mention the best creature control cards IMO (lightning, antimatter, all those fire cards). The only good creature control card good has is otyugh.

Healing will only prolong the inevitable.

That said, it wouldn't be impossible for good to win. Just very hard.

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Re: which is stronger, good or evil? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3620.msg33195#msg33195
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2010, 05:28:57 am »
Against switching Earth and Time. Time > Earth IMO. Hasten and Etern rules. Moreover, Time is opposite of Aether and Earth is oppsite of Air, switch them breaks the opposition of Good and Evil now

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Re: which is stronger, good or evil? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3620.msg33217#msg33217
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2010, 06:42:33 am »
It's true that Evil has great PC, but Good has Trident (you can use any mark, right?). Moreover, only Good has most healing (Heal, Miracle, Black Hole) while Evil has little (vampires, Granite Skin, can't heal much).
Not so at all.  Both sides have access to the only important healing card in the game -- Shard of Gratitude -- but Evil can use it's permanent control to remove Good's SoGs, whereas Good doesn't have that ability...which means that Evil outheals Good, period.


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Re: which is stronger, good or evil? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3620.msg33225#msg33225
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2010, 07:03:26 am »
I wanted to say something about PuppyChow's quote on the old thread, without clogging that one...

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Just because elements are rivals doesn't mean they're on opposing sides. I'm a University of Michigan fan, and we're big rivals with Ohio State, but when it comes to bowl games I still root for OSU since we're on the same side: the Big Ten conference.
I'm from Ohio, and I can say for sure that most people around here would NEVER root for the Wolverines...but I'm wondering if many Michigan fans are like you? I personally like the Steelers, which is Cleveland's major rival, but I root for the Browns whenever they're not playing each other...however, Browns fans would never root for the Steelers, even though the Browns suck as much as they do...  Just wondered if this is normal for Michigan-Ohio, just like I've noticed for Cleveland-Pittsburgh

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Re: which is stronger, good or evil? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3620.msg33227#msg33227
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2010, 07:08:47 am »
BTW, good also has FFQ+Bond, Deja+Blessing, and lots of creature/ability control...It should be enough to be able to counter the damage while clearing dark's board...all in all methinks it's pretty even-matched, just matters what decks come from this. It's something that I'm sure no one has played with before this, since there's really no reason to include just these colors.

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Re: which is stronger, good or evil? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3620.msg33358#msg33358
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2010, 04:01:07 pm »
We won't know for sure until we try.

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Re: which is stronger, good or evil? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3620.msg33363#msg33363
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2010, 04:07:29 pm »
*wondering why it matters*

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Re: which is stronger, good or evil? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3620.msg33365#msg33365
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2010, 04:09:39 pm »
*wondering why it matters*
I totally agree.

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Re: which is stronger, good or evil? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3620.msg33369#msg33369
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2010, 04:16:28 pm »
this debate is totally useless!

evil is normaly the powerful side... and good always wins in the end!
stop trying to balance, please let us fight!
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Re: which is stronger, good or evil? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3620.msg33388#msg33388
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2010, 05:06:24 pm »
stop trying to balance, please let us fight!
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