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Re: Which element wins if you're only allowed to make mono decks? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35678.msg449461#msg449461
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2012, 04:26:07 am »
Testing vs the AI is a bit flawed.. It should be done in PvP or at least switching the deck (you use the Earth/Water deck and AI use the Darkness deck).
With that said, I'm pretty sure these deck will kill the Darkness deck easily:

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Re: Which element wins if you're only allowed to make mono decks? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35678.msg449470#msg449470
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2012, 05:02:41 am »
To: suxors,
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Testing vs the AI is a bit flawed..
I agree, this was meant more as an informal challenge; however, I make note in my comments if the AI plays stupidly in my comments.  For example the first water deck submission, the AI with it's rules as they are technically could never win, but a human player could get some wins by holding onto the bolts.

And we could pvp it, it kind of came around informally, I only have a lot of time tonight to mess with this.  And ofcourse if some people want to get together and test more great...

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what do you think ended up killing the deck?
Not a whole lot of :earth or :water   ;)
Grab/Shrieker is one of the few that I've seen played that CAN beat it...  a lot rides on the start of each other's hand.  A good hand G/S and a poor for the other results in a win for G/S.  As you will see in my results.  It comes out to around 1/3rd for G/S 2/3rd for pests and vamps in my experience.
 :water has the better bet against it than  :earth but then again I also in part want to be proved wrong, I have an unnatural fondness for  :darkness because the first deck I built on my own was a mono  :darkness that I ran my first 100 games against AI3 after the introduction and had a 100% win rate against AI3 building up to my first AI4 grinder...  So  :darkness has fondness in my heart.  But when playing against the Arena or PVP there are 4 elements I ever worry about  :fire  :time  :entropy  :darkness.
Darkness itself results in ok what did that guy build.  Fire is always tricky and often wins if combined with  :earth or  :rainbow effects,   Entropy almost always means  :rainbow and a speedbow can suck and then  :time in a  :rainbow can stall plenty fine and turn the tables...   In mono forms though  :entropy sometimes can still win and  :time loses it's bite.  Atleast in my experience, again I want to be proven wrong.

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Re: Which element wins if you're only allowed to make mono decks? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35678.msg449480#msg449480
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2012, 05:48:11 am »
The following is one of my favorite decks.

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If Animate Weapon remains forbidden (come on, it looks like it's the same color on my computer screen at least!):

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As you can probably tell, I'm getting desperate on the Water end. Blank cards are SoV.

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Re: Which element wins if you're only allowed to make mono decks? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35678.msg449517#msg449517
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2012, 11:04:19 am »
Did someone say mono-water?
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Re: Which element wins if you're only allowed to make mono decks? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35678.msg449530#msg449530
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2012, 01:30:24 pm »
Right off the bat, this destroys that mono-darkness pretty consistenly.

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Re: Which element wins if you're only allowed to make mono decks? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35678.msg449781#msg449781
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2012, 02:56:58 am »
Here, let me try again.
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Just hope the AI is smart enough that it uses flooding and congeals correctly. It's all banking on the fact that innundation will reduce your opponent's creature cap to 5 so it drastically reduces the effectiveness of mono darkness, while congeals are able to lock down the remaining creatures. The quanta balance might be a bit wonky though.

Re: Which element wins if you're only allowed to make mono decks? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35678.msg449790#msg449790
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2012, 03:50:38 am »
Alright, thanks everyone for their submissions.
Rabbit and mwaeth gave me an idea for a deck that might work best on my testing, and it does, it wins more than it loses.
So, there is we know a mono water that can beat that darkness deck more often then not:  so I'm a bit more of a believer now in water:
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So, :fire masters, is there a element or two you think can't possibly beat your deck?  If so let's pick up the challenge?

 

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