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Re: What do you think of the Elements Council? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13720.msg190074#msg190074
« Reply #72 on: November 01, 2010, 06:12:31 am »
and i dont know how exactly it works in your country, but in mine, you always get a (short) explanation why you dont get the job. e.g. "sry you arent experienced enough, we need other qualifications..."

in bigger companys you even have announcement in memos, why someone is picked/promoted. (specailly the promoting part, because you will still work together)
Hm.. ok, I have to call bs on that one. :) Are you seriously suggesting that job recruiters in your country spend 1-2 weeks sending customized emails (or phone calls) to applicants who didn't get picked? :)

If you are talking about this same "I'm sorry but this time you weren't picked.." default email they send out to everyone, then yes we have that in my country too.

Sure you can get the reasons if you want, but there are a couple of things to consider:

1. You have to specifically ask for it
2. It won't be made public
3. It might not even be true (they won't tell you you didn't get the job because you are ugly)

And those announcement memos.. I highly doubt that they contain any information on the people who didn't get picked. Or are they like this:
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Bill has been appointed Regional Manager. Frank wasn't appointed because he has an attitude problem. Laura wasn't appointed because she's too old.. etc.
I don't want any public topics about these things because they are guaranteed to lead to drama when people start posting "why wasn't I picked?!". Furthermore, these topics serve no purpose because the decision has already been made.

Posting clear job requirements is a good thing to have, but I see no reason why the Council would be required to somehow explain their actions. They just chose the person they feel would be best for the job. That's it.

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Re: What do you think of the Elements Council? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13720.msg190273#msg190273
« Reply #73 on: November 01, 2010, 04:01:19 pm »
you might be right. i probably have more experience with friendly companys, who shared their apllication procedure in public.

in the average economy its more likely, like you picture it.
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I don't want any public topics about these things because they are guaranteed to lead to drama when people start posting "why wasn't I picked?!". Furthermore, these topics serve no purpose because the decision has already been made.
again... i neither want a public disscusion about someone isnt picked because she/he has a ugly avatar or a stupid sig.
all i wanted was a idea how the council is working.
Dragoon pointed it out and im happy with that.
if the ppl see, they do it in a correct manner, this prevents flamewars in a active way.
secret/hidden things can lead to alot of speculations and can head to drama.

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Posting clear job requirements is a good thing to have, but I see no reason why the Council would be required to somehow explain their actions. They just chose the person they feel would be best for the job. That's it.
explaining your actions is always helpfull to avoid drama. specially with kids.

and as i always like to cross the swords with you, Scaredgirl. i will now end my "crusade" here and might applie for the next council vote or a forum job i probably fit :P

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Re: What do you think of the Elements Council? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13720.msg190275#msg190275
« Reply #74 on: November 01, 2010, 04:05:59 pm »
i will now end my "crusade" here and might applie for the next council vote or a forum job i probably fit :P
You are perfectly okay asking questions like you are, especially in the calm manner that you are.  That is what this thread is made for.   :)
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Re: What do you think of the Elements Council? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13720.msg190280#msg190280
« Reply #75 on: November 01, 2010, 04:08:51 pm »
Yeah, don't get me wrong either. I just come from a background of having worked with committees and elected councils in the past so I have a few preset ideas of how things usually work. Thanks Dragoon for the posting and explanation.. helps a lot! Keep up the good works!!

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Re: What do you think of the Elements Council? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13720.msg193909#msg193909
« Reply #76 on: November 05, 2010, 04:32:00 am »
Around how long do you think we need to be an active member of the community to have a reasonable chance to get into council? I read the other post about how to increase your chances of getting in but it wasn't very specific

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Re: What do you think of the Elements Council? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13720.msg193917#msg193917
« Reply #77 on: November 05, 2010, 04:41:00 am »
Around how long do you think we need to be an active member of the community to have a reasonable chance to get into council? I read the other post about how to increase your chances of getting in but it wasn't very specific
If you want to "get in" the Council, just show that you are a dedicated, active member of the community that most people will recognize.  Having under two hundred posts isn't ideal, but yes, it is possible to run in the next election.

As for a previous post, assuming you are speaking of my application thread, that has nothing to do with being nominated for, and eventually becoming, a Council Member.
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Re: What do you think of the Elements Council? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13720.msg197631#msg197631
« Reply #78 on: November 10, 2010, 12:10:51 am »
Since (as far as I can tell) I have no mod powers yet, could someone please sticky/copy and paste/edit original topic to include this?
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13750.msg185349#msg185349

A lot of similar topics have been cropping up, and it's nice to show people that their ideas have been acknowledged.

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Re: What do you think of the Elements Council? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13720.msg209372#msg209372
« Reply #79 on: November 25, 2010, 07:16:46 pm »
Council has decided upon three new Deck Helpers.

hrmmm, kevkev60614, and Kuross.
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Re: What do you think of the Elements Council? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13720.msg209539#msg209539
« Reply #80 on: November 26, 2010, 01:38:41 am »
wow -- i almost missed that.

gratulations to kuross and kevkev.
im looking forward for a good teamwork.

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Re: What do you think of the Elements Council? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13720.msg226868#msg226868
« Reply #81 on: December 17, 2010, 11:07:10 pm »
Allow me to quote a fellow Council Member:

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ji412jo, Malduk, and kobisjeruk have been appointed PvP Organizers.
Congratulations to everybody.  OP will be updated very, very soon.
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Re: What do you think of the Elements Council? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13720.msg312896#msg312896
« Reply #82 on: April 16, 2011, 12:38:48 pm »
after 60 days...(or more)

what does the overseer do?
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Re: What do you think of the Elements Council? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13720.msg312906#msg312906
« Reply #83 on: April 16, 2011, 01:00:24 pm »
The Trial Overseer (xdude) made sure the recent Trials proceeded smoothly. He started the topics, communicated with the participants and had a large part in planning the trials. I see now the title listed in the OP isn't specified as Trial Overseer, but that's what it is.
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