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What card do you hate your opponent having the most? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33677.msg424686#msg424686
« on: November 13, 2011, 09:00:51 am »
It's hard for me to pin down to just one, but I'll give it a go.

I'm running a RoL/Hope deck at the moment.  This means that I'm vulnerable to all creature control which affects all creatures at once (like Plague or Rain of Fire) and also Fire Shield and Spine Carapace.  But I think, for me, the worst card to come up against is Steal.  If my opponent has a few Steals, then they'll usually win because they'll take my Lobotomiser, along with a few Towers/Pendulums, and they'll use it to gradually chip away at my defence.  They can also neuter my Light Nymph, preventing me from making my neutered cards useful again (as I could if they had a Mind Flayer that I had to wait a few rounds to lobotomise, and only then played my Nymph). 

It's not quite as devastating to my deck as others can be, but it is more annoying than, say, a Fire Shield because it's using my own card against me, or can leave me with 3 unplayable cards in my hand - a big drawback if you're using Fractal.

What do you hate, and why?

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Re: What card do you hate your opponent having the most? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33677.msg424690#msg424690
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2011, 09:08:50 am »
Dimensional Shield. Three turns per card of Dragtosis not doing a single darn thing, and usually several cards in a row.
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Re: What card do you hate your opponent having the most? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33677.msg424708#msg424708
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2011, 10:49:21 am »
Reverse Time. Especially when the stupid AI uses it on an RoL just to be annoying.
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Re: What card do you hate your opponent having the most? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33677.msg424710#msg424710
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2011, 10:55:11 am »
Interesting question; for me, I've tried not to hold any bias towards certain cards, but I've personally decided that Rage Elixir (not the Potion) and Explosion are the worst offenders. The former always seems to kill ANY creature that I pull out (or wither them to a mere dust once they hit that Fire Shield later on) in almost all of my decks, while the latter just happens to pop up at the worst times possible, removing my key weapon, shield, or even an Hourglass (!) that I need to make my deck run smoothly. Even with the nerf to Deflagration, I feel that no matter what I do, seeing those two fire cards always irks me, as they're the pinnacle of destruction that I so desperately want to avoid.

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Re: What card do you hate your opponent having the most? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33677.msg424711#msg424711
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2011, 11:02:41 am »
Definitely a interesting Question. ill go with a Dimensional Shield Sundial mix. When you're running a rush deck and they manage to get those out, with only 2 explosions in deck they wreck if they're chained. Haha.

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Re: What card do you hate your opponent having the most? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33677.msg424722#msg424722
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2011, 11:20:22 am »
Black Hole and Quicksand, especially in supernova decks.  (and obviously Amber Nymph, but that doesn't appear in supernova decks)

Black Hole is evil :p  There is nothing worse than watching the AI play one each turn for the first six turns.  And Amber Nymph... it's the black hole that keeps on giving!

If I see an earth mark or earth towers, especially with certain marks like time (earth tower + time mark = graboid/quicksand deck usually) I can save some of my towers in hand or PA them in defense.  If there's an entropy mark, it's usually a bit more of a surprise when the AI plays supernova then quicksand.

There's a list of cards that I think of as the 'dick' cards.  They're the ones that aren't just good, but annoying as well.  Most of the elements have one or two.  Stuff like black hole, quicksand, explosion, steal, silence, pulverizer, discord, nightmare... the ones that get in your face and just say no to whatever you're doing :p

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Re: What card do you hate your opponent having the most? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33677.msg424732#msg424732
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2011, 11:49:21 am »
Definetly Pufferfish. I just hate it. Dunno why. Maybe because I used to play CCYB/RoL Hope back before I got my account reseted, and those were just annoying. Not the worse thing that could be done to you, but just annoying.

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Re: What card do you hate your opponent having the most? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33677.msg424734#msg424734
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2011, 11:53:00 am »
Pulvy for me because I always use decks with important permanents so this weapon totally destroy me.
otherwise I dislike the EQ/RT/BH/discord combo. As sundial-RoF-dimshield-quinted oty.deck.
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Re: What card do you hate your opponent having the most? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33677.msg424739#msg424739
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2011, 12:06:32 pm »
bone wall is very annoying

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Re: What card do you hate your opponent having the most? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33677.msg424742#msg424742
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2011, 12:33:07 pm »
Thunderbolt.  It always annoys me when I completely drain the opponent's quanta and then suddenly they draw an Aether Tower/Quantum Tower that generates 1 :aether.  Suddenly, my once safe creature is gone.
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Re: What card do you hate your opponent having the most? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33677.msg424743#msg424743
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2011, 12:33:52 pm »
Well, lately I've been trying to farm something in platinum with varied decks, but I'm always destroyed by black hole spam or steal spam.
Looks like the game is usually:

you place your pillars and passes the turn
AI puts some pillars and use the black hole
you have nothing that can play, then passes the turn
AI puts another pillar and use another black hole
you can not play anything again, then passes the turn
AI puts an elite charger and use another black hole

Summary: You were completely destroyed and had no chance to defend yourself

Seriously, I agree we need one card to reduce the power of the rainbow decks. But the blackhole is more than that. This card takes almost all chances of winning of an opponent who uses a rainbow deck.

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Re: What card do you hate your opponent having the most? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33677.msg424786#msg424786
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2011, 04:10:27 pm »
Black Hole and Quicksand, especially in supernova decks.  (and obviously Amber Nymph, but that doesn't appear in supernova decks)
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Full ack. Usually, after two or three turns, you can drop the game.

So what would be strategies against? Enchanting / Protecting seems like a good idea. But who has got a bunch of those so you get one for sure at the beginning? Hm...

 

anything
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