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Re: Weekly Featured Cards poll - Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7232.msg165138#msg165138
« Reply #456 on: September 26, 2010, 12:17:02 pm »
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Re: Weekly Featured Cards poll - Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7232.msg165247#msg165247
« Reply #457 on: September 26, 2010, 04:49:26 pm »
The featured card is chosen!

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I'll be writing this one shortly... after I uh... 'recover'. >_>

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Re: Weekly Featured Cards poll - Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7232.msg165374#msg165374
« Reply #458 on: September 26, 2010, 11:15:27 pm »
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I think Kuroaitou will be taking over this project until March next year. By then, I should have most of my university stuff sorted out, and with a little bit of luck I won't be so depressed anymore. Until then...
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Re: Weekly Featured Cards poll - Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7232.msg165742#msg165742
« Reply #459 on: September 27, 2010, 05:08:13 pm »
Okay, here's the Black Hole article - it may seem shorter than the other articles, but personally, as long as it's 3-4 paragraphs with 200 words, I consider it okay. ^^;;


Black Hole is an alchemy card that’s focused on denial. It will drain a maximum of 3 quanta from each of your opponent’s quanta pools, healing you for the amount absorbed. This mechanic can absolutely destroy Rainbow decks, as it can absorb a major amount of their quanta while healing you up to a potential third of your health.

Unlike the majority of the other alchemy cards, Black Hole is a non-refundable spell that doesn’t require a permanent or creature target in order to work – upon use, it immediately drains up to 3 quanta from your each of your opponent’s respective quanta pools while healing you for the amount absorbed. If the opponent has no quanta in a certain element (say, having 0 :light quanta), then there’s no effect on the pool. Its simple absorption can be devastating against many decks, as a form of both quanta denial and last minute healing, but its potential is mostly dependent on the opponent’s quanta generation. Black Hole can instantly counter a Supernova spell (Supernova only generates 2 quanta of each element type), thus making it an effective counter towards many Rainbow Decks that emphasize those spells (it would heal up to 24 quanta from Supernova, healing the person who used the spell 24 health).

Although it is a relatively cheap card at 4 (or 3 upgraded) :gravity, Black Hole tends to lose power against decks that have a focus of quanta generation in one or two elements (mono or duo-decks). Against these decks, one tactic is to scramble their quanta between the other elements using Discord, then using Black Hole to absorb the dispersed resource to further deny the opponent of playing creatures or cards – this strategy is especially effective if you have multiple Discords on the field by using the spell, Flying Weapon, on the Discord weapon in the permanent slot and replacing it with another. Another tactic of denying quanta is to also utilize Earthquake. As Earthquake destroys the opponent’s pillars (generally the main source of quanta generation), Black Hole will take the leftover quanta, which can be devastating to recover from if the combination is used in the early section of a match multiple times. Both of these strategies may not work as well, however, if the opponent has certain shields or multiple pillar (and pendulum) stacks to avoid being denied of their quanta flow.

Pests can also assist in the quanta denial in combination with Black Hole – playing a few early Pests can considerable slow down the opponent if they’re using only one or two elements, and Black Hole can be played as necessary to keep the opponent’s quanta as low as possible. In addition, Nightmare (another Darkness card) can be played on your Pests (which duplicates the Pests in your opponent’s hand) that will clog up your opponent’s hand and also deny of them of their next draw. From this, decks that use :darkness or :earth can synergize well with Black Hole, to assist with denial combinations.

Although there are very few cards that can counter a Black Hole, careful card playing (such as playing numerous Supernova’s followed by key cards in a deck) can make a Black Hole spell seem a waste of space or inept against smart opponents. Because a player can only have 6 Black Hole spells in a deck, people who rely more on the quanta denial mechanic should hope to obtain a Gravity Nymph from the Oracle for a more consistent usage, assuming they have the quanta to repeatedly utilize it. Nonetheless, Black Hole is a great card to have against many Rush-Rainbow Decks (a popular choice in the T50 generally) and to obtain Elemental Mastery in a few cases.

Quick Facts:
-Black Hole absorbs a maximum of 3 quanta from each of your opponent’s quanta pools.
-Only heals the player based on the amount of quanta absorbed
-Has a healing range potential of 3 health to 36 dependent on the opponent’s quanta usage

Use This Card Together With:
-Discord | Discord
-Earthquake | Quicksand
-Devourer | Pest

Decks Using This Card:
-The Shutdown
-Drag-ords

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Re: Weekly Featured Cards poll - Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7232.msg167687#msg167687
« Reply #460 on: September 30, 2010, 02:20:39 am »
Nice article! I enjoyed it. Just did some copy-editing and have some small corrections:

Black Hole is an alchemy card that’s focused on denial. It will drain a maximum of 3 quanta from each of your opponent’s quanta pools, healing you for the amount absorbed. This mechanic can absolutely destroy Rainbow decks, as it can absorb a major amount of their quanta while healing you up to a potential third of your health.

Unlike the majority of the other alchemy cards, Black Hole is a non-refundable spell that doesn’t require a permanent or creature target in order to work – upon use, it immediately drains up to 3 quanta from your each of your opponent’s respective quanta pools while healing you for the amount absorbed.
You're repeating yourself from the first paragraph. To solve that, I'd simply take out the latter instance to be less redundant.

(it would heal up to 24 quanta from Supernova, healing the person who used the spell 24 health).
A little confusing, since Supernova is a spell too (does "the spell" refer to Supernova or Black Hole?). I'd change "the spell" to "Black Hole."

Another tactic of denying quanta is to also utilize Earthquake.
"Another" implies "also." I'd take out the "also."

Pests can also assist in the quanta denial in combination with Black Hole – playing a few early Pests can considerable slow down the opponent
Should be "considerably."

In addition, Nightmare (another Darkness card) can be played on your Pests (which duplicates the Pests in your opponent’s hand) that will clog up your opponent’s hand and also deny of them of their next draw.
The "in" should be "to" (which duplicates the Pests to your opponent's hand). The "of" should be taken out.

Although there are very few cards that can counter a Black Hole, careful card playing (such as playing numerous Supernova’s followed by key cards in a deck)
I'm a little confused by that. What do you mean by "key cards"? Do you mean you should play numerous Supernova's followed by as many cards in your hand as possible, or are there certain cards you can use that would counter the effects of Black Hole?

-Has a healing range potential of 3 health to 36 dependent on the opponent’s quanta usage
The range should be from 1 to 36, since an opponent can finish their turn with just 1 quantum (e.g., if they have no tower and only produce 1 quantum from their mark).

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Re: Weekly Featured Cards poll - Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7232.msg167729#msg167729
« Reply #461 on: September 30, 2010, 03:54:23 am »
The featured card on the wiki isn't updated yet. I won't put up the new poll until it's updated.
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Re: Weekly Featured Cards poll - Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7232.msg167786#msg167786
« Reply #462 on: September 30, 2010, 08:35:42 am »
The range should be from 1 to 36, since an opponent can finish their turn with just 1 quantum (e.g., if they have no tower and only produce 1 quantum from their mark).
I think the real minimum is 0, because if you play 2 BHs in a row the second one might not drain anything ;]

Yeah, I know the only reason why you would do that is to decrease opponent's morale ;>
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Re: Weekly Featured Cards poll - Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7232.msg167789#msg167789
« Reply #463 on: September 30, 2010, 08:42:33 am »
The range should be from 1 to 36, since an opponent can finish their turn with just 1 quantum (e.g., if they have no tower and only produce 1 quantum from their mark).
I think the real minimum is 0, because if you play 2 BHs in a row the second one might not drain anything ;]

Yeah, I know the only reason why you would do that is to decrease opponent's morale ;>
That, or if your name is Dark Matter  :(

I think this phrasing could work: "Can heal up to (a maximum of) 36 HPs." The "dependent on your opponent's quanta usage" part doesn't seem necessary since the first Quick Fact already covers it.

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Re: Weekly Featured Cards poll - Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7232.msg167877#msg167877
« Reply #464 on: September 30, 2010, 03:16:02 pm »
Nice article! I enjoyed it. Just did some copy-editing and have some small corrections:

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Major thank you chum3. :) I fixed all of the spelling/grammar mistakes you've pointed out, and I also took up YawnChainHow's advice to fix the third 'Quick Fact' accordingly. ^_^

Although there are very few cards that can counter a Black Hole, careful card playing (such as playing numerous Supernova’s followed by key cards in a deck)
I'm a little confused by that. What do you mean by "key cards"? Do you mean you should play numerous Supernova's followed by as many cards in your hand as possible, or are there certain cards you can use that would counter the effects of Black Hole?
I mean it both ways. If you 'know' that your opponent has a Black Hole in their hand or has a chance of using it against you the next turn, you can either strategically play as many cards as you can (so quanta denial is somewhat useless, as all they would be doing is taking up leftover quanta that doesn't affect your permanents, creatures, etc.), OR you could play cards that could help you deny them of playing Black Hole (Black Hole, ironically enough, can counter another Black Hole by limiting the other player to less than 4-3 :gravity quanta to play the spell, for example). Fractal Pests can be devastating against a mono-gravity as well, etc.

Supernova spam was just an example of how to reap the benefits of gaining -that- much quanta as quickly as possible, followed by playing the cards you need out on the field asap (i.e. - in my match against Xinef, I played 3 Supernovas, an Elite Deja Vu, Unstoppable, Epinephrine, AND Quintessence to basically set out an unblockable/non-controlled 24 damage per turn. XD)

The wiki article should be updated soon. ^^;

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Re: Weekly Featured Cards poll - Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7232.msg168730#msg168730
« Reply #465 on: October 01, 2010, 10:32:41 pm »
Definitely antimatter. Honestly I think that the card should be under the darknesss category, since it is using your opponents advantage against him and for you, but i digress. Many times Ive been on like 10 health left, and the next turn is a sure fire kill, and I pull out antimatter and it completely changes the game. One minute their like this :D and then it turns into this :o

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Definitely antimatter. Honestly I think that the card should be under the darknesss category, since it is using your opponents advantage against him and for you, but i digress. Many times Ive been on like 10 health left, and the next turn is a sure fire kill, and I pull out antimatter and it completely changes the game. One minute their like this :D and then it turns into this :o
Er....this is the poll for gravity, and antimatter is an entropy card.....
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Re: Weekly Featured Cards poll - Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7232.msg168755#msg168755
« Reply #467 on: October 01, 2010, 11:13:56 pm »
Sounds to me like someone didn't read past the first page :P
Anyway, the next poll is gonna be :earth , now that :gravity 's been chosen (going by the pattern on the first post)

 

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