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Re: Weekly featured cards poll - {Gravity} https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43980.msg1009830#msg1009830
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2012, 08:48:29 am »
Go go go, Gravity Shield!
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Re: Weekly featured cards poll - {Gravity} https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43980.msg1010397#msg1010397
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2012, 09:34:51 pm »
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Re: Weekly featured cards poll - {Gravity} https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43980.msg1010398#msg1010398
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2012, 09:41:37 pm »
Yep, gotta go with Titan.

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Re: Weekly featured cards poll - {Gravity} https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43980.msg1010402#msg1010402
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2012, 09:53:09 pm »
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Re: Weekly featured cards poll - {Gravity} https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43980.msg1010616#msg1010616
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2012, 06:11:46 pm »
Armedilgo gets my vote.
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Re: Weekly featured cards poll - {Gravity} https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43980.msg1011160#msg1011160
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2012, 04:20:21 am »
Article for Graviton Fire Eater is now up!
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Thoughts: Eeech. This card is pretty UP and  UU. Everything it does is outshadowed by something else. Charger does better damage. Golem grows faster. Armagio is able to use its hp better. There doesn't really have anything ot fire eater that makes it stand out besides it's 1 :gravity summoning cost. I can see why so many people overlook it. I had a pretty hard time finding a good deck that used more than 2 of these, and one that I found I decided not to include since it used lots of SoFo.

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Re: Weekly featured cards poll - {Earth} https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43980.msg1011166#msg1011166
« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2012, 06:10:03 am »
Plate Armor ftw! People must know this card isn't useless. :)
EDIT: By the way, I can't understand why Graviton Fire Eater is considered UP and UU. It is the most cost-effective grower of the game and it fits rainbow decks more easily than Forest Spirit.
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Re: Weekly featured cards poll - {Earth} https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43980.msg1011227#msg1011227
« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2012, 10:26:13 am »
voted for plate armor as well, a very underused but cool card :D

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Re: Weekly featured cards poll - {Earth} https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43980.msg1011238#msg1011238
« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2012, 11:37:38 am »
Voted for Plate Armor by the same reasons above.
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Re: Weekly featured cards poll - {Earth} https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43980.msg1011287#msg1011287
« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2012, 05:54:37 pm »
By the way, I can't understand why Graviton Fire Eater is considered UP and UU. It is the most cost-effective grower of the game and it fits rainbow decks more easily than Forest Spirit.
The only advantage it has is its cheap cost 1 :underworld and relatively good defense when starting out. However, this only applies to the upped version, as the unupped version is still 2 :underworld and only 5hp (easily lightning'd). In upped gaming however, lava destroyer and elite charger easily outstrip this since not many decks can make use of these. Paradoxically its main advantage is early speed, yet it requires many turns before it can get effective.

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Re: Weekly featured cards poll - {Earth} https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43980.msg1011290#msg1011290
« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2012, 06:08:52 pm »
By the way, I can't understand why Graviton Fire Eater is considered UP and UU. It is the most cost-effective grower of the game and it fits rainbow decks more easily than Forest Spirit.
The only advantage it has is its cheap cost 1 :underworld and relatively good defense when starting out. However, this only applies to the upped version, as the unupped version is still 2 :underworld and only 5hp (easily lightning'd). In upped gaming however, lava destroyer and elite charger easily outstrip this since not many decks can make use of these. Paradoxically its main advantage is early speed, yet it requires many turns before it can get effective.

Let's compare it with other growers of its cost. Forest Spirit/Spectre has only 1|1 for 2 :life (or 2|3 for 3 :life) and Fire Spirit/Spectre has only 0|2 for 2 :fire (or 2|3 for 3 :fire) when they come out. Aren't these easlity Lightning'd? Actually, they are also easlity Thunderstormed, Snipered, Shockwaved, Fire Bolted, Devoured etc. Basic CC damage is 3 and not 5, which is only applied by Rage Pots and Bolts. Overall, Fire Eater/Master is faster to play and more CC resistant too; a really underestimated grower in my honest opinion. :(
Edit: As for speed, it gains +2 attack, like every other grower does.
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Re: Weekly featured cards poll - {Earth} https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43980.msg1011297#msg1011297
« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2012, 06:15:02 pm »
You bring up comparison. That's good.

Fireeater is 2 :gravity for 0|5 and :fire ablaze
Fire spirit is 2 :fire for 0|2 and :fire ablaze
Forest spirit is 2 :life for 1|1 and :water growth
Lava golem is 5 :fire for 5|1 and :earth growth
Sapphire charger is 5 :gravity for 4|5 and momentum

When compared to fire spirit, it requires a duo cost for only 3 extra hp. 5hp does make a difference, but lightning is the most common CC card in PvP, so it's not that large of a difference. Does it really justify the duo cost?

When compared to forest spirit, both of them require duo cost growing, but growth is better than ablaze, and forest spirit starts out with 1 extra attack (and in 2 turns will be just as sturdy).

Lava golem is 5 instant attack for 5 :fire, along with the ability to grow. It's also able to come out much easier with immolation and much faster than fire eater.

Sapphire charger costs 2.5 times, but it would take a fire eater at least 5-6 turns along with constant :fire (so costs balance out along with turns) to deal the same damage the charger did, and charger ignores shields.

 

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