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Voodoo Vs Neptune https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27771.msg353852#msg353852
« on: June 20, 2011, 01:40:57 am »
So I had decided to make a video of several matches using my voodoo deck, to show any strategies that are needed to play the deck as effectively as possible, and this video is the first one I made.  Enjoy!


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Re: Voodoo Vs Neptune https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27771.msg353860#msg353860
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2011, 01:53:52 am »
I find it kind of funny that you post a video where you lost (while you could (maybe) have won). If you didn't draw as much as you did then neptune would have had more time to release his attackers.

But I like the idea of posting video's on how to use voodoo decks ;)

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Re: Voodoo Vs Neptune https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27771.msg353885#msg353885
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2011, 02:25:59 am »
Video guides are great, but play correcty next time. Decking out is a problem against Neptune, and you shouldn't have drawn so quickly.
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Re: Voodoo Vs Neptune https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27771.msg353892#msg353892
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2011, 02:34:54 am »
I never realized that Neptune could correctly play congeal+shockwave on a voodoo... and ironically his fail draw ended up being your downfall

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Re: Voodoo Vs Neptune https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27771.msg353901#msg353901
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2011, 02:50:35 am »
twixy and root, i know how to play the deck just fine thanks.  there would have been no way to know what he was drawing next, so i had to make sure i had the cards i needed.  neptune would never have gotten enough dmg against me in the last 5-6 turns anyway.  i know how to play the deck probably the best, as i have been asked when to play sundials (of all cards to ask about lol) and i do know when to play them and against what fgs the regular voodoo style wont work and instead TU'ing their creature is better

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Re: Voodoo Vs Neptune https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27771.msg353923#msg353923
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2011, 03:47:49 am »
I never realized that Neptune could correctly play congeal+shockwave on a voodoo... and ironically his fail draw ended up being your downfall
The congeal/shockwave will only be used when the stall effect of BB falls off the doll, i.e. vs Neptune (and in rare cases vs Dream Catcher) you always need to keep your played doll under the stall effect of BB.

Is this video a troll bucky? :-\

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Re: Voodoo Vs Neptune https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27771.msg353928#msg353928
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2011, 04:06:30 am »
No, i was merely showing what a fail game it was.  It just happened to be the first video I was recording for a visual aid to voodoo decks, and after the first 5 turns, i figured i keep going to see how it played out, and like i thought, i lost.  But only because neptune failed so hard.

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Re: Voodoo Vs Neptune https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27771.msg353930#msg353930
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2011, 04:10:03 am »
Cool, well the format looks fine, you might want to add audio commentary or a written account of what to look out for vs that FG in the video description. Good luck making the vid-guides.

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Re: Voodoo Vs Neptune https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27771.msg353934#msg353934
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2011, 04:15:16 am »
neptune would never have gotten enough dmg against me in the last 5-6 turns anyway. 
That's wrong.  A dragon attacking a doll 4 times with 3 PU is enough to kill.

Also, there was never really any reason to draw extra cards in that game, since a Neptune without Water Towers is about as dangerous as an upgraded Malignant Cell.  You drew a total of 6 extra cards that game, and when you decked out, Neptune had 13 Water quanta available, most likely to play a dragon the next turn.  Thus, you would have won with 0-1 cards left in your deck, had you played the rest of the game correctly.

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Re: Voodoo Vs Neptune https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27771.msg353978#msg353978
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2011, 07:44:53 am »
@ Isei

1) Neptune will play squids first because they cost less, FGs do not save up quanta like a real person does. 
2) I know how to play this deck correctly, and after almost 10 turns of neptune not playing a tower, I would have normally quit, but since I was recording I wanted to keep it and show how bad of a game it was, despite how I played.
3) It is always better to be prepared for what an FG could do, and I was making sure I had the right cards.
4) I know how much damage is needed to use 1, 2 and 3 TU's I don't need you to tell me, kthx.

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Re: Voodoo Vs Neptune https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27771.msg354032#msg354032
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2011, 01:44:21 pm »
@ Isei

1) Neptune will play squids first because they cost less, FGs do not save up quanta like a real person does. 
2) I know how to play this deck correctly, and after almost 10 turns of neptune not playing a tower, I would have normally quit, but since I was recording I wanted to keep it and show how bad of a game it was, despite how I played.
3) It is always better to be prepared for what an FG could do, and I was making sure I had the right cards.
4) I know how much damage is needed to use 1, 2 and 3 TU's I don't need you to tell me, kthx.
1) he will not, because he has played all the squids he has, and has 13 quanta (which is enough for the dragon, and FG's will always play the most expensive card, I think).
2) Apparently you can make mistakes, but you will not admit them because you see yourself as an authority in this type of deck.
3) No it isn't, I would rather have a small winning chance while I could be overrun than an even smaller winning chance without the overrun chance.
4) Apparently  you do, because you said Neptune would never get enough damage while he easily could have.

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Re: Voodoo Vs Neptune https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27771.msg354036#msg354036
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2011, 01:57:45 pm »
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1) he will not, because he has played all the squids he has, and has 13 quanta (which is enough for the dragon, and FG's will always play the most expensive card, I think).
This makes your other 3 comments null and void due to this being stupid.

NEPTUNE WILL ALWAYS PLAY SQUIDS FIRST, HE WILL NEVER SAVE UP QUANTA IF HE HAS SQUIDS IN HIS HAND. 

The only time he would play a dragon before a squid is if he ended up with enough quanta at the end of the round to play the dragon the next turn.  Also, and I really have no clue, but let's just assume AI's play cards in their hands like they activate abilities.  In order.  So the AI starts from one end of their hand and works its way to the other.  So if he had enough for a dragon but a squid came first in line in their hand, I think the squid is played.  Again, I really have no clue, but it may be like this.  But they won't save up quanta unless they have nothing to play.

Do read what I wrote and understand it how I wrote it and not as you want to understand it.  I never said anything about what he had already played or how many, all I said was THAT HE PLAYS SQUIDS FIRST.  It doesn't matter how much quanta he has after that, the fact is HE PLAYS SQUIDS FIRST.

And for the record, if you have never played a voodoo doll against any FG, then you probably don't know this, so I will let you in on the secret.  Typically if I have a voodoo doll out with some basilisk bloods on it and gravity pull, FGs will hold back strong monsters until the voodoo doll is weak, then they play them all at once to kill it.  They do this a lot of the time.  So even if he had a dragon in his hand, there is no guarantee he would play it.  So yes, obviously I am the authority on this type of deck.  I know all the little secrets and ways of beating each and every FG with my voodoo deck.

 

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