Unified Elements PVP Achievements Leaderboard

[CCCombobreaker]

set a total prize pool on Team PvP events, divide it by number of team members.  that allows you to keep meaningful weight between events of varying size and rewards people on smaller teams more, where (I know it's an assumption that can be faulty...) it is less likely any players are coasting to victory.

[theelkspeaks]

I think I might move events with more than 4 players to a "Large Team PVP" section, and handle the points for that section differently.  Affected Events would be Draft I, Draft II, Fallen Empire, and Harry Potter.

Haven't decided exact number of points for these events yet - what sounds reasonable (in the context of the scoring system)? 75 points to the top team and 50 points to second place team, with players with no match wins of their own excluded? That eliminates the coasting problem to some extent, and also makes it half points for roughly double team size.

[RootRanger]

How about the winning team gets 150 divided by the number of players, and the 2nd place team gets 100 divided by the number of players? Team PvP gives 50 points for the winners and 30 for 2nd place; HPvP/Draft give 20 for the winners and 10 for 2nd place.

Anything more would mean Team PvP Events are significantly more important than individual PvP Events, which I think most of the community would disagree with.

[theelkspeaks]

TPVP should be valued equally or near-equally to individual PVP Events on a per-player basis, rather than on a total basis, I would say.  Anything less makes winning TPVP mean barely more than a weekly tournament, which would be undervaluing it.  I could take an argument for dropping to 100-75, comparable to the smaller PVP Events, but the number of rounds and Bo5 rather than Bo3 ought to add up to more than a weekly tournament.

Events with more than 4 players per team, then, I'd drop to 75-50?

[RootRanger]

I suppose 100-75 for TPvP is fair. It's a large event with best of 5 and double elimination, which ensures that the winning teams are very skilled and the best teams are very close to the top. This gives a total of 525 points handed out. For such a large and important event, I suppose this is fair.

However, 75-50 stills sounds too high for events like HPvP and the first two drafts, which have teams of 7-8 players. With 75-50 for HPvP, a total of 950 points are awarded. That sounds a little high, when events like Sideboard is 400. Do you believe HPvP is more than twice as important as Sideboard? Is it more than twice as important as Sacrifice?

Lastly, I still insist that Falling Empire should be an individual event. My impression from playing in the event was that it was essentially every man for himself, and I feel like that's what The Mormegil intended.

[theelkspeaks]

I suppose 100-75 for TPvP is fair. It's a large event with best of 5 and double elimination, which ensures that the winning teams are very skilled and the best teams are very close to the top. This gives a total of 525 points handed out. For such a large and important event, I suppose this is fair.

However, 75-50 stills sounds too high for events like HPvP and the first two drafts, which have teams of 7-8 players. With 75-50 for HPvP, a total of 950 points are awarded. That sounds a little high, when events like Sideboard is 400. Do you believe HPvP is more than twice as important as Sideboard? Is it more than twice as important as Sacrifice?

Lastly, I still insist that Falling Empire should be an individual event. My impression from playing in the event was that it was essentially every man for himself, and I feel like that's what The Mormegil intended.

You have a pretty fair point, if we're talking about total points awarded rather than points per player.  How about 75 to the top team, and nothing to anyone below that for Draft/HPVP?  With only 4 teams, getting 2nd isn't that impressive after all.

[RootRanger]

You have a pretty fair point, if we're talking about total points awarded rather than points per player.  How about 75 to the top team, and nothing to anyone below that for Draft/HPVP?  With only 4 teams, getting 2nd isn't that impressive after all.

Sounds good! The leaderboard is getting much more accurate, this way. I really like it.

[theelkspeaks]

You have a pretty fair point, if we're talking about total points awarded rather than points per player.  How about 75 to the top team, and nothing to anyone below that for Draft/HPVP?  With only 4 teams, getting 2nd isn't that impressive after all.

Sounds good! The leaderboard is getting much more accurate, this way. I really like it.

I went ahead and made this change, but preserved the old team results just in case we decide to undo this at any point.  I'll make a full standings update post later today after our new masters have all been crowned.

[theelkspeaks]

After the decrease in Team PVP Points awarded and the large team/small team split, as well as the addition of the new master titles, the top 20 standings are as follows:

1   majofa   2910
2   Calindu   2325
3   deuce22   2310
4   Jen-i   2260
5   mrpaper   2050
6   Odii Odsen   1985
7   dragonsdemesne   1790
8   10 men   1725
9   RavingRabbid   1705
10   Zeru   1635
11   RootRanger   1600
12   MrBlonde   1500
13   kev   1495
14   vagman13   1410
15   GG   1385
16   Onizuka   1345
17   Kakerlake   1285
18   TheonlyrealBeef   1270
19   Shantu   1240
20   Jenkar   1165

Additionally, congratulations to new 3-time master Calindu, who has earned his entropy background on the mastership standings, and to dragonsdemesne, who became #1 on the overall points from weekly tournaments standings with his win last week!

[RavingRabbid]

Impressive. I haven't won anything in a while, yet I still place #9 on these standings.

[theelkspeaks]

Update with official results of BL/CL 2/2014 added

Leagues only:
1   Odii Odsen   1200
2   dragonsdemesne   750
3   Calindu   725
4   Vangelios   595
5   RavingRabbid   525
6   RootRanger   525
7   GG   510


Overall:
1   majofa   2910
2   deuce22   2410
3   Jen-i   2355
4   Calindu   2325
5   mrpaper   2195
6   Odii Odsen   2145
7   dragonsdemesne   1940
8   10 men   1725
9   RavingRabbid   1705
10   RootRanger   1660

[Zawadx]

Could you develop a leaderboard with points from only one year only? It would help us see who's been doing well in recent times.

Also, keep up the good work!