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Re: True Mortal VS False God (Weekly PvP Event) [5th week] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54641.msg1145698#msg1145698
« Reply #108 on: July 15, 2014, 03:30:24 pm »
Question: Will you rate the decks now or during the simulation/whatever?

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Spoiler for strategy stuff:
AI doesn't care about antimatter'd creatures.

So just play the scorpion, antimatter it and let it slowly (very slowly) kill the FG.

I may change the deck around for quanta balancing, but can it still be rated :3?

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Re: True Mortal VS False God (Weekly PvP Event) [5th week] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54641.msg1145705#msg1145705
« Reply #109 on: July 15, 2014, 03:37:53 pm »
^
You need to put a few strategical hints if you wish to rate it right now. ;D
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Re: True Mortal VS False God (Weekly PvP Event) [5th week] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54641.msg1145710#msg1145710
« Reply #110 on: July 15, 2014, 03:44:54 pm »
Done. Being creative is hard.

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Re: True Mortal VS False God (Weekly PvP Event) [5th week] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54641.msg1145713#msg1145713
« Reply #111 on: July 15, 2014, 03:57:53 pm »
I think we need some more restrictions on deckbuilding, otherwise you won't even have to simulate them.
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Re: True Mortal VS False God (Weekly PvP Event) [5th week] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54641.msg1145716#msg1145716
« Reply #112 on: July 15, 2014, 04:02:57 pm »
I think we need some more restrictions on deckbuilding, otherwise you won't even have to simulate them.
I think originality is a fair restriction already. I will simulate them no matter what; who knows, the AI may be super lucky with some of the decks and actually win a few games. :P

EDIT: I am going to mention my originality score to the OP of this week in order to be able to see the result and change it accordingly.
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Re: True Mortal VS False God (Weekly PvP Event) [5th week] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54641.msg1145717#msg1145717
« Reply #113 on: July 15, 2014, 04:08:22 pm »
Aww. :(

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Re: True Mortal VS False God (Weekly PvP Event) [5th week] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54641.msg1145719#msg1145719
« Reply #114 on: July 15, 2014, 04:14:36 pm »
Aww. :(

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« Reply #115 on: July 15, 2014, 04:15:03 pm »
Aww. :(

Looks like more deckbuilding tomorrow!

You've done well, with maybe a few changes it can be a little more original and take the Original rating instead of the Average one. ;)
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Re: True Mortal VS False God (Weekly PvP Event) [5th week] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54641.msg1145726#msg1145726
« Reply #116 on: July 15, 2014, 05:02:51 pm »
I'm not that happy with my deck actually.

Clearly, if you want a deck that can beat a FG even if the noob tries to copy it AND doesn't misplay it, you gotta go mono-gravy

U mad?
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Strategy. Play gravy shield, the FG can't hit you. FG plays gravy shield, nothing happens.



But I'm really tempted to do this my submission, since it will require ARTH to use brain cells:

Do you even chimera?
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Strategy: Play the gravy shield to shut down its damage ASAP. The AI has no idea how to use chimera and won't play it unless it can OTK. If the shield comes soon enough he won't have enough damage for that. Play your creatures to take down his dilgos, because even with the shield, the less damage on his side the better.

The combo you want is chimera + dilgo so you give momentum to all your creatures and can get rid of the GP on the next turn so that the chimera can last until the FG is dead. Because of this you need to take the following into account:

  • The attack of the creatures that go in the chimera must be enough to kill the FG on the turns you have left, otherwise wait for more dragons.
  • The chimera needs to withstand one turn of the FG's creatures damages, your dilgos are the ones that will contribute most of the HP.

If RNG doesn't hate you, you should get everything together during the match. (in some cases you can even try using chimera twice to start dealing damage early, but that's trickier)
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Re: True Mortal VS False God (Weekly PvP Event) [5th week] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54641.msg1145757#msg1145757
« Reply #117 on: July 15, 2014, 08:15:13 pm »
Thought this was a good idea...
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then I realized that the FGAI ups the novas  :D (unupped vs unupped would result in novas played to early by the ai)
I suppose this will have to do then:
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Are dead cards okay if they are not crucial for the winning strategy (referring to unusable supernovas, not steals and pests)?
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Wait till you can get a singularity then aflatoxin it (rest  is self explanatory). destroy opponents malignent cells at any cost (after they turned into malignent cells). The AI may kill itself with singularities before you do but thats not the winning strategy.
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Re: True Mortal VS False God (Weekly PvP Event) [5th week] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54641.msg1145777#msg1145777
« Reply #118 on: July 15, 2014, 09:23:21 pm »
Good old FFQ deck should be more intresting than Nymph Tears deck.

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The trick is that you can use light cards and FG can't.

You have to get Firefly Queen out fast and start generating Fireflies. Hope is the key kard that you must get out. If you get Hope out, then you win, but there are chance that you get rushed (thats why there are so many :light cards, in hope that those will clog up and slow FG down).

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This is much more fun :D
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You should have 1 Nova at beginning, so you can get the Rustler out, then play Fireflys from your mark and turn all :light into :life to build your healing army. You can use Mitosis on second Rustler so that Bonds could heal you more. You can also use Mitosis on Firefly, but only of you have enough :air quanta to summon new Firefly that turn. Finnaly summon some dragons to finish him off.
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Re: True Mortal VS False God (Weekly PvP Event) [5th week] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54641.msg1145791#msg1145791
« Reply #119 on: July 15, 2014, 10:36:47 pm »
Thought this was a good idea...
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then I realized that the FGAI ups the novas  :D (unupped vs unupped would result in novas played to early by the ai)

And where is the problem? FG ai won't be able to use SNovae, so it won't be able to play Lightning, so it won't be able to finish you off, while you can use 1 late Nova with Thunderbolt to kill the 1 hp FG ai (due to SoVs). This is both an excellent and an original idea; I don't really know why you've changed it (though I don't really see the point of having Devourers at all). :P
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