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The Experimental Pvp deck-choice method https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33479.msg422229#msg422229
« on: November 08, 2011, 01:41:01 am »
After a discussion in chat, we came up with a method to fool TStar in the deck choice or at least make him human. Alright, so basically the idea is this:

Compile a list of viable decks.
Use an RNG to choose which one you're going to use.

This method eliminates any bias which successful predictors (aka. mindreaders) cannot use any means to predict your deck choice.

Anyone willing to test this method in BL?

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Re: The Experimental Pvp deck-choice method https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33479.msg422230#msg422230
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2011, 01:45:39 am »
I will start doing this in CL. It's mostly luck, so I have nothing to lose.

And please don't use this thread to post your league decks. You don't need another player's ideas in order to choose your decks randomly.
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Re: The Experimental Pvp deck-choice method https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33479.msg422231#msg422231
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2011, 01:46:08 am »
wat/10

I think MatrimKK utilizes this method.  :P

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Re: The Experimental Pvp deck-choice method https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33479.msg422232#msg422232
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2011, 01:46:16 am »
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Re: The Experimental Pvp deck-choice method https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33479.msg422233#msg422233
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2011, 01:47:03 am »
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Re: The Experimental Pvp deck-choice method https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33479.msg422236#msg422236
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2011, 01:49:52 am »
Every time I try RNGing decks, I say 'bah this isn't going to work' to the first one, and pick the next one on the list anyways ~.~
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Re: The Experimental Pvp deck-choice method https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33479.msg422237#msg422237
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2011, 01:51:08 am »
Further proof that nobody is really happy until TStar fails.
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Re: The Experimental Pvp deck-choice method https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33479.msg422240#msg422240
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2011, 02:04:50 am »
Slightly relevant: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/science/rock-paper-scissors.html
After understanding the computers algorythm, I was able to mash its head in.  The same way TStar apparently mashes everyone else's head in.  Even randomness has a pattern and governing equation.

Think of it like war.  If my opponent is picking from a list, I will learn the list eventually.  In war after a few rounds you know what decks the opponent has.  The good teams are able to use the decks in these situations that maximize the win rate versus the largest pool of decks.

A good player will always have some clue what he's up against and have a decent counter in hand.

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Re: The Experimental Pvp deck-choice method https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33479.msg422243#msg422243
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2011, 02:20:06 am »
Based on the BL stats of the top players (well, TStar mostly), it would be better to pick randomly from a list than to try to outpredict TStar (seriously, guys? You think you can do that?). Even if your list is only 10 decks, if the decks complement each other, you should have at least a 1/3 chance.
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Re: The Experimental Pvp deck-choice method https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33479.msg422244#msg422244
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2011, 02:20:31 am »
Slightly relevant: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/science/rock-paper-scissors.html
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Re: The Experimental Pvp deck-choice method https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33479.msg422274#msg422274
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Re: The Experimental Pvp deck-choice method https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33479.msg422279#msg422279
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