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Re: Strongest Element? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37716.msg483444#msg483444
« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2012, 04:50:44 am »
If you're not wanting to take a lot of damage, aether is quite good. But for most powerful, I'd not be sure. Some elements are better suited to smash others. For instance, if a hard-hitter deck with few monsters in it will get pound to the dust by a well-built aether deck if it gets a dim shield up in time. But that same deck can lose pathetically to death because it's weak against poison or against a good lifehealer with a lot of patience.

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Re: Strongest Element? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37716.msg486775#msg486775
« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2012, 10:53:04 pm »
If you ask me, I go for  :life, because life mono-decks are usually the most reliable for gaining Elemantal Mastery. The reason is simple;
1) HEAL spell restores 20 health just for 3 quantum (2 upgraded).
2) EMPATHIC BOND heals 1 hp per creatures you control just for 5 quantum (4 upgraded). If you have your side of the battlefield full of creatures, this is 23 hp per turn!
3) DRUIDIC STAFF gives you 5 points of life per turn in both normal and upgraded versions.
 
 I favor  :earth as second, because it is a very good rusher with quite cool abilities and some healing too!

If that's your reasoning: Darkness has Vampires, Drain Life, Vampire Stiletto and Nightmare.


Dude, excuse me, but in terms of healing, Life element is better than Darkness. Vampires, Vampire Stilletos, Liquid Shadows, Drain Lives have to deal damage in order to heal you (powerful shields = no vampirism, low health creature = low gain from Life Drain) and with Nightmare your opponent must has an empty hand to be effective, while Druidic Staves, Heals, Empathic Bonds, Shards of Gratitude restore your health just by existing there (ok, Empathic Bond needs creatures on the field to be effective, but you know what I mean). Seriously, no element beats Life in healing arts. The only other element that can come close is Light, mostly because of these almost-broken Miracles it has. Darkness comes third, but well behind Life and Light.
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Re: Strongest Element? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37716.msg486779#msg486779
« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2012, 10:58:27 pm »
But the problem with :life is how easily it can be stopped.  Sure you can rush all you want.  Or stall with mass healing.  But it all comes down to being able to deal that last blow.  :life doesn't really have that power yet since dragons aren't the creature of choice.

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Re: Strongest Element? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37716.msg487013#msg487013
« Reply #39 on: April 25, 2012, 04:23:45 am »
Strongest element by itself? 

Rush -  :fire
Denial/break -  :darkness
Stall -  :aether

Id have put  :entropy in there but its not that great of a mono in my opinion. its most strong when mixed with other elements.

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Re: Strongest Element? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37716.msg487015#msg487015
« Reply #40 on: April 25, 2012, 04:25:41 am »
Strongest element by itself? 

Rush -  :fire
Denial/break -  :darkness
Stall -  :aether

Id have put  :entropy in there but its not that great of a mono in my opinion. its most strong when mixed with other elements.
:fire in rush? :life is probably the best element for rushing. Only thing is, they have no PC or CC and weak creatures.

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Re: Strongest Element? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37716.msg487028#msg487028
« Reply #41 on: April 25, 2012, 04:37:37 am »
which is why i rank  :life below  :fire in rushing. a rush needs to be able to bust through early shields. life currently has no why to do this. it makes up for it by being able to use heal, but that makes it less of a rush.

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Re: Strongest Element? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37716.msg487047#msg487047
« Reply #42 on: April 25, 2012, 04:46:39 am »
Surprisingly Fire is kind of crap at rushing as a Mono. Life is quite fast, thanks to Adrenaline Frogs. Earth and Death have good rushes as well.

But ofc Air is the best at everything.

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Re: Strongest Element? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37716.msg487050#msg487050
« Reply #43 on: April 25, 2012, 04:47:57 am »
imho its mono other with all its sose and other shards. I mean with the right shards you have plat, gold, and fg killers. If you dont count that' then darkness.
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Re: Strongest Element? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37716.msg487149#msg487149
« Reply #44 on: April 25, 2012, 10:28:28 am »
But the problem with :life is how easily it can be stopped.  Sure you can rush all you want.  Or stall with mass healing.  But it all comes down to being able to deal that last blow.  :life doesn't really have that power yet since dragons aren't the creature of choice.

 The debate was about which element is best at healing arts, in which  :life simply rules (bonds, heals, staves) and  :light has the second place (miracles, angels, holy lights),  :darkness comes in third (vampirism, life draining),  :earth is fourth (stoneskin),  :water fifth (purify),  :entropy sixth (antimatter) and  :death :fire :gravity :time have not actually a way to heal themselves (correct me if I am wrong here). Anyway, I don't think  :life can be beaten at healing. If we include shards, then  :death takes the 3rd/4th place (Shard of Sacrifice has superb healing capabilities) and the two "kings" of healing ( :life and  :light) become even greater at this (Shard of Gratitude, Shard of Divinity).

 About life being stopped by sheilds, of course it should be, otherwise it would be the most overpowered element by far! Imagine an element with all the + of life and with not the - of no creature control, no permanent control.  :life must be stoppable. After all, life can do some useful things while being blocked by Sundials or Dim Shields, like using Shard of Patience or healing. Wing Shields can be dealt with, since there are Emerald/Jade Dragons, Forest Spirits/Spectres, Rusters/Leaf Dragons (all of these airborne) and a Shortbow/Longbow can be used instead of Shortsword/Longsword in mono-life rush. Actually, the big problem with mono-life is not the permanent control, but the creature control. You won't always have a Thorn/Spine Carpace by your side and a well-fed Otyugh, a Fallen Elf/Druid or a Maxwell Deamon + Plague combo can hit life where it hurts it more; its big-strong-cheap creatures... But as I said before, if  :life hadn't those disadvantages, it would rule everywhere, same goes with the rest elements with their respective advantages/disadvantages. Again, correct me if I am wrong here.
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Re: Strongest Element? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37716.msg487150#msg487150
« Reply #45 on: April 25, 2012, 10:35:46 am »
 :gravity has a way, actually. Black Hole. It can also heal up to 36 HP, which is one third of your maximum HP (assuming you don't use SoD or Stone Skin)
For most part, i agree that :life is the king of healing, even without Miracle. But that alone doesn't make it strongest element. It merely shows that fighting :life could be hard. And slow.
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Re: Strongest Element? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37716.msg487185#msg487185
« Reply #46 on: April 25, 2012, 12:05:04 pm »
:gravity has a way, actually. Black Hole. It can also heal up to 36 HP, which is one third of your maximum HP (assuming you don't use SoD or Stone Skin)
For most part, i agree that :life is the king of healing, even without Miracle. But that alone doesn't make it strongest element. It merely shows that fighting :life could be hard. And slow.

 Right, Black Hole, it just slipped off my mind previously. I don't really believe there is generally a strongest element around and mono-element decks aren't versatile due to their nature. However, for me  :life will be always the best element...  ;D always...  :-*
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Re: Strongest Element? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37716.msg487270#msg487270
« Reply #47 on: April 25, 2012, 04:47:58 pm »
Personaly I vote Time.. They have some awsome abilities.
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