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Steam Machine what the... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9255.msg108952#msg108952
« on: July 06, 2010, 11:36:11 am »
Steam Machine 0/8 for 5 water and 0/15 for 6 water and 4x steam skill per 2 fire quanta,i would like to ask who hit on this?   :o ???
For me this card is to strong in such configuration.
- 0/15 and later growth max to 16/15 this is like a dragon;but dragon are f.e Golden 12/12 for 13 quanta,8/30 Massive Dragon for 12 or Ruby Dragon 15/2 for 12
-0/15! that is almost immaterial;for similiar cost we have Elite Immortal but Steam is more powerful and Immortal who is to expensive (5/4 for 7) now is much more badly against Steam Machine :(
 15 hp so isn't easy to kill Steam Machine and for so low card cost the players can have in deck many of them.

I see yet this all water/quanta deck's with Stem Machine's army...

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Re: Steam Machine what the... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9255.msg108962#msg108962
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2010, 12:12:54 pm »
A lot of people actually comment that Steam Machine is actually underpowered.

It basically gains 3 attacks for 2 quanta, which is worse than growth or ablaze that give 2 attacks for 1 quantum.

Also, losing attack power every turn could be quite crucial if the creature is frozen, delayed, etc.

Lot of HP? Gravity shield completely blocks it.
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Re: Steam Machine what the... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9255.msg109004#msg109004
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2010, 02:19:16 pm »
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8445.0.html Here's what proves it's actually worse than a lava golem.

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Re: Steam Machine what the... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9255.msg109008#msg109008
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2010, 02:24:59 pm »
The point is, no one's yet been able to put together a really powerful deck with this card yet, that really proves that it's not as good as it looked. And yeah, the math proves that growth is better and a growth creature can have even more hp than a steam machine after a few turns. It's not that great, I'm telling you. ;)

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Re: Steam Machine what the... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9255.msg109018#msg109018
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2010, 02:37:16 pm »
Yeah all the kids on Kongregate think this is amazing and I tell them the comparision to lava golem and change their mind.

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Re: Steam Machine what the... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9255.msg109159#msg109159
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2010, 06:11:43 pm »
A lot of people actually comment that Steam Machine is actually underpowered.

It basically gains 3 attacks for 2 quanta, which is worse than growth or ablaze that give 2 attacks for 1 quantum.

Also, losing attack power every turn could be quite crucial if the creature is frozen, delayed, etc.

Lot of HP? Gravity shield completely blocks it.
Yes block it,Phase Shield to but not everyone use this in deck. That resolve the problem not.
I wrote about killing this creature. To make this you need f.e. 3 Thunderbolts,5 Fire Lance's (or 1 but 50 fire elements),Ice Lance's even more, etc... poison sounds funny by 15 hp.
So not easy to kill 1 and when we play f.e. against 3 or 4?

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Re: Steam Machine what the... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9255.msg109296#msg109296
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2010, 08:53:49 pm »
It's not that hard to kill this creature. Lobotomize it, mutate it, use Gravity Shield, freeze it, Rewind it, Liquid Shadow it, Shockwave it while frozen, etc... the list goes on and on. The fact is that Steam Engine is just plain worse than Lava Golem. Heck, Graviton Firemaster is arguably better because it is almost free to play and has a cost-effective ability.

 

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