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Stalls VS. Rushes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20084.msg254793#msg254793
« on: January 23, 2011, 02:11:09 am »
Alright....in a fight, who do you think would win?

I personally beat a 40 card fully upped stall in the T50 with a 30 card unupped rusher...so..I'm biased. Doesn't seem all that hard, personally.

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Re: Stalls VS. Rushes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20084.msg254796#msg254796
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2011, 02:13:26 am »
Alright....in a fight, who do you think would win?

I personally beat a 40 card fully upped stall in the T50 with a 30 card unupped rusher...so..I'm biased. Doesn't seem all that hard, personally.
t50 doesnt matter. The AI doesnt know how to work stall decks. However, I think rush decks would win most of the time. Especially the faster ones.

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Id gladly challenge a stall deck user that thinks otherwise. Maybe you can prove me wrong.
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Re: Stalls VS. Rushes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20084.msg254798#msg254798
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2011, 02:17:56 am »
Id gladly challenge a stall deck user that thinks otherwise. Maybe you can prove me wrong.
When you say stall, are you ignoring decks that's single goal is deckout?

When I create deckout decks, they're packed so full of CC and healing, that the opponent rarely has anything out for more than 2 turns, and I recover anything they do. The average stall, or a sloppily built deckout, often doesn't stand a chance against a good rush though.

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Re: Stalls VS. Rushes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20084.msg254800#msg254800
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2011, 02:18:46 am »
Yeah..my current rush is actually ht efastest due to TTW study I believe.

But yeah, my deck has a way of grinding rares even on non-farms...*shrug* Not the point.

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Rushes seem to be easily able to get rid of stalls, unless they have some sort of CC or blocking shields.

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Re: Stalls VS. Rushes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20084.msg254802#msg254802
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2011, 02:20:07 am »
Id gladly challenge a stall deck user that thinks otherwise. Maybe you can prove me wrong.
When you say stall, are you ignoring decks that's single goal is deckout?

When I create deckout decks, they're packed so full of CC and healing, that the opponent rarely has anything out for more than 2 turns, and I recover anything they do. The average stall, or a sloppily built deckout, often doesn't stand a chance against a good rush though.
we can try it out right now if you want. Thats a stall deck for sure. One loaded with that much CC might pose a problem for me though.

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Is there a difference between stall and denial? If so, your deck seems more of a denial. Not sure if theres even a point of calling them different though
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Re: Stalls VS. Rushes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20084.msg254804#msg254804
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2011, 02:24:34 am »
Challenge: Beat my T50 Mono :entropy Stall with a rush.  ;)

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Re: Stalls VS. Rushes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20084.msg254805#msg254805
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2011, 02:25:32 am »
Already did, BatCountry.

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Re: Stalls VS. Rushes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20084.msg254806#msg254806
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2011, 02:26:00 am »
I think that deckouts are best at taking out semi-stalls, decks with some CC and some damage. These semi stalls usually have the upper hand on rushes because they balance between damage and CC. However, I think that rushes can outrush deckouts. Of course, rushes are not the best counterdecks to deckouts. If they have SoGs you will want something like an enchanted pulvy. For firestall earthquakes will be priceless. It all depends on the type of rush and the type of stall, but I think every deck has something that can almost always beat it.
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Re: Stalls VS. Rushes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20084.msg254807#msg254807
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2011, 02:26:41 am »
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Re: Stalls VS. Rushes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20084.msg254808#msg254808
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2011, 02:26:55 am »
we can try it out right now if you want. Thats a stall deck for sure. One loaded with that much CC might pose a problem for me though.

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Is there a difference between stall and denial? If so, your deck seems more of a denial. Not sure if theres even a point of calling them different though
Mine will be a tad slower than I want, due to being unupped, but I can go now.

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Re: Stalls VS. Rushes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20084.msg254809#msg254809
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2011, 02:27:32 am »
Challenge: Beat my T50 Mono :entropy Stall with a rush.  ;)
Im waiting in chat fdor anyone who wants to have a go with a stall deck

btw, im using the rush, you use the stall :{
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Re: Stalls VS. Rushes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20084.msg254810#msg254810
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2011, 02:29:24 am »
SSs are freaking hard to do..

 

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