Spin nerf?

[Hobnob5000]

I think he means that each spin, 5 cards are picked. Lets say you beat an FG, you get 3 spins. 5 cards are picked for each of the 3 spins. So effectively, you could have 15 different cards on there. Thats the way I interpret it. I guess more cards means less chance of getting a certain one.

Also, good to see you Zanz.

[Ashebrethafe]

I think he means that each spin, 5 cards are picked. Lets say you beat an FG, you get 3 spins. 5 cards are picked for each of the 3 spins. So effectively, you could have 15 different cards on there. Thats the way I interpret it. I guess more cards means less chance of getting a certain one.

Also, good to see you Zanz.

Actually, it's only four cards per spin -- the code picks five cards from the deck, but the fifth never appears in the slots. If any of these is a pillar/tower, it is discarded and another card is selected at random to replace it -- except that:

• a maximum of 10 (down from 50) will be discarded per spin
• for some reason, quantum towers are not discarded (although quantum pillars are).

[Astaroth]

The spin has never been nerfed since the first Elements' version. That part of the code never changed.
The only thing that changed, (months ago) is the probability to get pillars from decks made mostly of pillars.

Perhaps a bug or something has come up. From personal experience, I've thought that the spins were nerfed discretely in the last update.

I think I've won one card from about 15 FG victories since the update (haven't gotten to play much recently). It used to be much better for me. Guess it's just bad luck...

[Chemist]

• for some reason, quantum towers are not discarded (although quantum pillars are).

I believe that was fixed months ago. I'm here since 1.18 and I never got a Quantum Pillar from beating a rainbow deck in Top50.

I think I've won one card from about 15 FG victories since the update (haven't gotten to play much recently). It used to be much better for me. Guess it's just bad luck...

Probably. Especially if there had been a time before when you only won one card in 15 battles - then the odds of that might not be so small. I have been playing against AI3 lately and haven't noticed any change in the spinner win rate with the update.

[miisswoodford]

I just played 40 games at AI3, won 3 cards. It feels different to me. I also haven't won a single card from fake gods since the new update, and one card from T50.

[kintar]

I have had similar experiences lately. I used to win a card in approximately 30-40% of my FG games. Now it's closer to like 10-15%...

[Chemist]

I just played 40 games at AI3, won 3 cards. It feels different to me. I also haven't won a single card from fake gods since the new update, and one card from T50.

And I presume you won all of them? I just played 10 matches as well and got 4 cards from them. Didn't feel like I was winning any more or fewer cards than usual. Well if it's a bug (which I assume it isn't) we can safely say that I'm not affected.

But think about it - won't some people always be winning a bit above their average and some a bit below? I'm guessing it would be mostly the people who are currently in the later group who post in this topic at all.

[Kurohami]

Strange, that's how I felt too. I felt I win much less cards from the false gods now.

[PhuzzY LogiK]

I think he means that each spin, 5 cards are picked. Lets say you beat an FG, you get 3 spins. 5 cards are picked for each of the 3 spins. So effectively, you could have 15 different cards on there. Thats the way I interpret it. I guess more cards means less chance of getting a certain one.

Allowing for Ashebrethafe's correction of only 4 out of 5 cards appearing in each spin, this still doesn't sound right.

Let's say you win a T50 match against an opponent with 30 cards (so three spins).  Have you ever noticed that if cards like Boneyard pop up in one spin, it will probably make an appearance in the second or third as well?  You know there can't be more than 2 of those in the deck.  Assume 12 pillars.

So you're saying it picked 5 cards out of 18 (not counting pillars), displayed 4, and Boneyard was one.  Then it picks 5 NEW cards, displays 4, and picks Boneyard AGAIN?  And possibly a third time?

One the one hand, more than 5 cards appear in spins.  On the other hand, the SAME cards appear in different spins enough that it doesn't seem that 5 new cards are pulled for each individual spin.

[PuppyChow]

The spin has never been nerfed since the first Elements' version. That part of the code never changed.
The only thing that changed, (months ago) is the probability to get pillars from decks made mostly of pillars.

G'day Zanz

Thanks for confirming it hasn't changed.

Could it be we are experiencing an unintentional bug? I was under the impression from information ChrisKang had posted a long time ago that the reels only used 5 cards but I'm seeing 7 different cards in some cases.

The most of those five cards you ever see is 3. New cards are picked after every spin.

[guolin]

I still think the spins are off. So far, I believe the most lucky spins are level 3 and T50? (I don't play T50). Level 5 rarely gives me any cards, upped or unupped, due to mixed decks, and I have never won an upped card from level 6.

[PuppyChow]

I still think the spins are off. So far, I believe the most lucky spins are level 3 and T50? (I don't play T50). Level 5 rarely gives me any cards, upped or unupped, due to mixed decks, and I have never won an upped card from level 6.

I just played two games. Incarnate and Fire Queen.

Incarnate: Had 3 sets of 2 cards in a row, but didn't win a card.
Fire Queen: Had 1 set of 2 cards in a row, then won a fire lance and a firefly queen.

Nothings wrong, IMO .