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Elements the Game => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kuross on September 01, 2010, 10:21:57 pm

Title: Spin Information for Elder (Level 3)
Post by: Kuross on September 01, 2010, 10:21:57 pm
Figured there are those out there that might be interested in this info, so here ya go! Just keep in mind I am no statistician! ;)


Elder Spin Information

Games played: 500

Total amount of spins with matching first two pictures: 521   
(This number includes rares since the first two pictures still generate +5 electrum, regardless of the third picture.)
Electrum from paired spins: 2605

Spins with no cards won: 322
Total amount of electrum won from matched pair spins won: 1610
This number only represents the amount of electrum won from just matched pairs of spins.

Cards won: 199 (including rares)
Rares won: 20
Electrum won from cards sold: 9520


Games with no spins: 141
Games with successful spins: 359
Games with 1 spin: 223
Games with 2 spins: 112
Games with 3 spins: 24

Games with no cards won: 328
Games with cards successfully won: 172
Games with 1 card won: 150
Games with 2 cards won: 20
Games with 3 cards won: 2


Relevant Information from the above data


**Average electrum per game with spinning: 24.25

*Each set of spins takes 8 seconds.

Amount of total electrum won: 12125
Percentage of electrum gained from cards: 78.5%
Percentage of electrum gained from matched pairs: 21.5%
Percentage of electrum won from only matched pairs of spins: 13.3% (Only counting spins with no cards won)

Successful spins per game: 1.042
Percentage of a successful spin: 34.7%
(A successful spin is defined as any spin that wins, including spins with only matching first pairs and spins with cards won)


Percentage of a game with successful spins: 71.8%
Percentage of games with 1 successful spin: 44.6%
Percentage of games with 2 successful spins: 22.4%
Percentage of games with 3 successful spins: 4.8%
Percentage of successful spins with no cards: 64.4%

Percentage of cards won per game: 34.4%
Percentage of games with 1 card won: 30%
Percentage of games with 2 cards won: 4%
Percentage of games with 3 cards won: 0.4%


Misc. notes

Longest streak without winning a card: 11 games
Longest streak without winning anything (cards or paired spins): 5 games
Longest winning streak for winning at least one card: 6 games
Longest streak for winning something on spins: 11 games


List of cards won

Vulture x12
Firefly Queen x11
Devourer x10
Fire Bolt x9
Lycanthrope x8
Poison x8
Ice Shield x6
Guardian Angel x6
Blessing x6
Photon x6
Chrysaora x5
Parasite x5
Fate Egg x5
Pegasus x5
Reverse Time x4
Parallel Universe x4
Ice Dragon x4
Boneyard x3
Chaos Seed x3
Procrastination x3
Emerald Shield x3
Virus x3
Nova x2
Déjà Vu x2
Otyugh x2
Devonian Dragon x2
Armagio x2
Lightning x2
Freeze x2
Heal x2
Momentum x2
Wyrm x2
Mind Flayer x2
Solar Shield
Short Sword
Anubis
Grabboid
Deflagration
Black Dragon
Sapphire Charger
Forest Spirit
Rustler
Stone Skin
Shrieker
Steal
Skull Shield
Flooding
Hope
Ice Bolt
Thunderstorm
Fractal
Quintessence
Fire Shield
Nightfall
Thorn Carapace


Rares

Arctic Squid x4
Eternity x3
Miracle x3
Morning Star x2
Druidic Staff x2
Fahrenheit
Vampire Stiletto 
Owl's Eye
Discord
Pharaoh
Lobotomizer


Notable mentions

Quantum Pillar
Emerald Pillar
Title: Re: Spin Information for Elder (Level 3)
Post by: jmdt on September 01, 2010, 10:42:53 pm
Kuross, you are a machine.

+ karma
Title: Re: Spin Information for Elder (Level 3)
Post by: jippy99 on September 02, 2010, 12:15:42 am
How much time did it take you to play/record all that information???
Title: Re: Spin Information for Elder (Level 3)
Post by: Ifailgood on September 02, 2010, 12:18:14 am
Um... How long did this take you?

Lol ninja'd by above
Title: Re: Spin Information for Elder (Level 3)
Post by: RedWarrior0 on September 02, 2010, 12:21:49 am
500 games at, say 3 minutes for games and spins (guesstimate) with, say, 20 losses (understatement, no doubt)

520 * 3 = 1560 minutes = 60*25 + 60*1 minutes = 26 hours.  :o
Title: Re: Spin Information for Elder (Level 3)
Post by: Ifailgood on September 02, 2010, 12:24:28 am
500 games at, say 3 minutes for games and spins (guesstimate) with, say, 20 losses (understatement, no doubt)

520 * 3 = 1560 minutes = 60*25 + 60*1 minutes = 26 hours.  :o
Each game lasts like 1min 30 secs according to that grinding stat thing. Then you need to spin and click some more, so that's 30 more seconds? Then he has to record the information...

Then you need to not commit suicide from the boredom so you can actually post it.
Title: Re: Spin Information for Elder (Level 3)
Post by: Kuross on September 02, 2010, 12:25:34 am
Actually, I used my version of EM Life Rush which, including spins, was about 1:20ish minutes, so a lot less time than 26 hours ;)

Still, was many hours over several days and taking the time to get the data and compile it took some time to. Figure it will be helpful in knowing, with more accuracy, what AI3 is capable of generating.
Title: Re: Spin Information for Elder (Level 3)
Post by: RedWarrior0 on September 02, 2010, 12:26:33 am
How many losses and how long were spins?
Title: Re: Spin Information for Elder (Level 3)
Post by: Mastermind79 on September 02, 2010, 12:27:58 am
Wow, this is amazing. I always suspected those Vultures...they're everywhere, I'm telling you.
Title: Re: Spin Information for Elder (Level 3)
Post by: Kuross on September 02, 2010, 12:35:09 am
How many losses and how long were spins?
Very simple- 500 wins, no losses. Can't spin on a loss ;)

But if anyone wanted to know, I think I lost about 4 games or so. Wasn't too many.

Also, spins take 8 seconds from beginning to end. I modified the above to add that bit of info.
Title: Re: Spin Information for Elder (Level 3)
Post by: RedWarrior0 on September 02, 2010, 12:37:55 am
Yeah, I was wondering how many losses in your data search. So it's more like only 8-10 hours.
Title: Re: Spin Information for Elder (Level 3)
Post by: Kuross on September 02, 2010, 12:41:12 am
Yeah, I was wondering how many losses in your data search. So it's more like only 8-10 hours.
Figure safe to say, 1:30 minutes pe game over 500 games is 12:30 hours ;)

Wow, this is amazing. I always suspected those Vultures...they're everywhere, I'm telling you.
I've done a LOT of games versus AI3 and I have to say this is not too surprising. I collected more vultures than any other card, though FFQ was surprisingly common in this run to. At 71 electrum a pop for a FFQ, was nice to get a bunch.
Title: Re: Spin Information for Elder (Level 3)
Post by: jippy99 on September 02, 2010, 10:53:26 am
something else to add to your data. Cards/money while pressing spin and Cards/money while pressing spin all because I know that spin gets your more cards. Maybe Ill play 500 games with the other one and see the difference.
Title: Re: Spin Information for Elder (Level 3)
Post by: jmdt on September 02, 2010, 02:45:39 pm
something else to add to your data. Cards/money while pressing spin and Cards/money while pressing spin all because I know that spin gets your more cards. Maybe Ill play 500 games with the other one and see the difference.
Its completely random and spin all and spin should give the same % of cards.
Title: Re: Spin Information for Elder (Level 3)
Post by: Kuross on September 02, 2010, 04:09:53 pm
something else to add to your data. Cards/money while pressing spin and Cards/money while pressing spin all because I know that spin gets your more cards. Maybe Ill play 500 games with the other one and see the difference.
Its completely random and spin all and spin should give the same % of cards.
Agreed.


Also, as thorough as I wanted to be, I don't think it's relevant to see the difference between single spin versus spin all. Keep in mind this data is meant to be used in real time situations. All the data way above is meant to be of help in determining the pros and cons of Elder, with this particular set of numbers looking only at the spins. Besides, I am not too sure there are many out there that use the single spin button all that much. Perhaps I'm wrong, but even so, the percentages should still be the same.
Title: Re: Spin Information for Elder (Level 3)
Post by: Wolfunit on September 02, 2010, 04:35:14 pm
How much time did it take you to play/record all that information???
Kuross is a lv3 info gaining god along with jmdt (deck testing on lv3/spin testing) what next Kuross.....we all shall wait on your next testing project. ;)
Title: Re: Spin Information for Elder (Level 3)
Post by: jippy99 on September 02, 2010, 07:14:46 pm
something else to add to your data. Cards/money while pressing spin and Cards/money while pressing spin all because I know that spin gets your more cards. Maybe Ill play 500 games with the other one and see the difference.
Its completely random and spin all and spin should give the same % of cards.
I actually read somewhere a month ago that pressing spin gives more cards than spin all.  I dont remember where it was so i dont have a link.  I tried it out and i found that I got more cards and money from spin.
Title: Re: Spin Information for Elder (Level 3)
Post by: jmdt on September 02, 2010, 07:18:48 pm
something else to add to your data. Cards/money while pressing spin and Cards/money while pressing spin all because I know that spin gets your more cards. Maybe Ill play 500 games with the other one and see the difference.
Its completely random and spin all and spin should give the same % of cards.
I actually read somewhere a month ago that pressing spin gives more cards than spin all.  I dont remember where it was so i dont have a link.  I tried it out and i found that I got more cards and money from spin.
I read that too.  That was just someone's personal recollection.
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