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Re: Should we have a TTW (poll) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32924.msg417287#msg417287
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2011, 05:35:55 am »
What is TTW?
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Re: Should we have a TTW (poll) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32924.msg417290#msg417290
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2011, 05:46:21 am »
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Re: Should we have a TTW (poll) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32924.msg417407#msg417407
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2011, 02:05:21 pm »
I planned on just writing all my crap out but I would like to link that doc. The issue is that I have a Linux cimputed so I don't have excel. Right now I'm put on pause because I would like to use the 1.27 ttw study format that hrmms made. And I'm not going to use it unless he says it is ok. But if he has not said anything by Monday I'm going to make my own.

And I was planning on doing time and ttw and doing two different lists for upped and unupped. One organized by time and one by turn.
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Re: Should we have a TTW (poll) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32924.msg417410#msg417410
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2011, 02:09:32 pm »
I could make a special one just for you, and it could be a spreadsheet(google docs), and it would take me less than an hour. 
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Re: Should we have a TTW (poll) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32924.msg417533#msg417533
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2011, 07:56:36 pm »
that would be nice. Although i dont really know how to use google docs all that much...
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Re: Should we have a TTW (poll) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32924.msg417701#msg417701
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2011, 02:09:25 am »
Quote from: DarknessDemon on October 29, 2011, 07:56:36 pm
that would be nice. Although i dont really know how to use google docs all that much...
It's pretty easy, and I'll have a tutorial in the thing. So, I will start it with these features: tab for TTW, tab for seconds to win, tutorial. What else do you want in it?
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Re: Should we have a TTW (poll) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32924.msg417725#msg417725
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2011, 02:46:41 am »
Actually, I think I will do it where there are many (10-15) sheets, so different people can get stats for different decks. What I will include for each sheet will be: TTW, STW(seconds to win) and win/loss ratio. Tell me if you have anything else in mind.
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Re: Should we have a TTW (poll) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32924.msg417779#msg417779
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2011, 05:57:28 am »
To win / lose ratio, can you add skips?
For most FG decks, there are always at least 3 or 4 FGs that you have 10%- chance in, and playing all of them just for the sake would be inefficient..
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Re: Should we have a TTW (poll) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32924.msg417788#msg417788
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2011, 06:14:49 am »
Quote from: xSInDoMaNx on October 30, 2011, 05:57:28 am
To win / lose ratio, can you add skips?
For most FG decks, there are always at least 3 or 4 FGs that you have 10%- chance in, and playing all of them just for the sake would be inefficient..
If there are Elders that a deck absolutely cannot win against then that deck shouldn't be tested, honestly.

I'm seeing a lot of suggestions for what should be added to this study.  If you're really going to try and launch this then I highly advise that you keep the stats recording to what we have already made a point of providing in each of the TTW threads.  There was a lot of careful analysis and brainstorming that went into this project even before I started helping with it that simply cannot be ignored.
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Re: Should we have a TTW (poll) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32924.msg417945#msg417945
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2011, 02:13:54 pm »
So far, I'm making it look like this:

Win|Loss|TTW|STW |||  Win %|AVG TTW|AVG STW

This means that you would put something in the win or loss column and the TTW and STW in their columns(one row for each game) and the stats(on the right of the |||) would automatically update. If you want the complete thing where you include electrum and EMs and get more stats, just get excel.
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Re: Should we have a TTW (poll) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32924.msg417961#msg417961
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2011, 03:06:19 pm »
Doesn't sound too difficult to make. I have some experience and knowledge with excel, looked at statmasta, and thought that I couldn't make anything as complicated as this. However, this just seems to use the average function / algebra :P

Thanks for what you're doing even so :)
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Re: Should we have a TTW (poll) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32924.msg417966#msg417966
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2011, 03:14:37 pm »
yeah, it didn't take me long at all to make the excel.
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