rare card farming

[berendho]

hey, I'm pretty new to the game but I've already read a lot of forum posts and played the game enough to be able to defeat false gods. I couldn't really find a definite answer in regards to getting rare cards. Can you win them of level 2? Do you get the same chance to get one with a 3 AI3 spins as with 3 AI5 spins? If you want a nymph, is the only way to get them to see the oracle every day? maybe these answers could be implanted in the faq?

[teffy]

Can you win rares from lvl2 ? hmm, I tested about 200 cards of lvl2 in the trainer, and found none, only Daggers as weapon. Lvl 0 and lvl 1 have rares, I saw a Druidic Staff with Precognition in lvl 0 (trainer), and won a Pulverizer from lvl 1 (normal game)

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The more specialized the deck, the better are the chances for cards. So the chances of lvl3 and lvl5 are different.
Top 50 is best for rares, because some people make farm decks.

You can get nymphs only from the oracle.(or ingame from Mutation, or Fate Egg or Nymph´s Tears)

[PhuzzY LogiK]

First of all,  there is a difference between rares and upgraded cards (you probably know that, but just to be clear).

You can't win anything from lvl 0, because you get no spin.

I'm pretty sure lvl 1 and 2 use rares (weapons), which means technically you should be able to win them, but you only get to spin once or twice per win, respectively.

The reason most people grind AI3 to start is because you get 3 spins (3 chances to win a card) per win, and speed decks can get through matches quickly (thus giving you a lot of chances to win cards in a short time).  You can win weapons, Miracles and Squids from AI3.

You also get 3 spins for winning a match against the Top 50.  You can win any card from the deck you played (weapons, shards, etc) except Nymphs, and you cannot win upgraded cards.

You get 3 spins for AI5 as well.  You can win weapons, Miracles and Squids but not shards.  You have a small chance (like 2%, if I recall) to win upgraded cards.

You get 3 spins for False Gods.  You can win all the same cards as AI5, but ALL cards won are upgraded.

You can only get Nymphs from the Oracle.  Also, I think the odds of winning a weapon may be better in AI3 because their decks are smaller than AI5 (30-40 cards for AI3 vs 60 cards for AI5).  Therefore, they have a better chance to be selected for a spin.

[Delreich]

You can't win any cards from lvl0.
You can win any card except shards and nymphs from lvl1 (I think... may be some other exception).
No rares available from lvl2.
All rares except lobotomizer available from lvl3.
I think lvl5 are the same as lvl1.
From other players (top50, pvp) you can win anything in their deck except nymphs (you'll get relics instead of nymphs).
From fake gods you can get any rare and SoDs.

Note that by rare I only mean the 12 weapons, squid and miracle.
Shards can only be won from other players and (SoD only) fake gods.
Nymphs can only be gotten from the oracle or tournaments.
Relics can be won from other players, fake god Dark Matter and maybe lvl1 and/or lvl5.
Mark cards can only be won from tournaments and maybe other players.

[berendho]

thanks, this clears things up for me. I guess I have to log in everyday to see the oracle in order to have some chance of getting nymphs.

[Warkthogus]

That's the whole point, berendho.  If they get you to come more often, you spend more time here.  The more time you spend here, the more likely you are to donate.  It's basic advertising strategy.