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mogv

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Rare Card? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8863.msg103849#msg103849
« on: June 29, 2010, 06:13:57 pm »
Why is fractal sold in the bazaar but not miracle? That is all.

P.S.: Arctic squid really? :S

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Re: Rare Card? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8863.msg103852#msg103852
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2010, 06:16:35 pm »
go go and farm some t50 :P

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Re: Rare Card? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8863.msg103894#msg103894
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2010, 07:20:58 pm »
Fractal isn't a rare card, but Miracle is. The "spends all  :aether quanta" was a nerf that was put in place.

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Re: Rare Card? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8863.msg104901#msg104901
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2010, 09:54:02 pm »
Fractal isn't a rare card, but Miracle is. The "spends all  :aether quanta" was a nerf that was put in place.
Wasn't it nerfed before coming into the game?

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Re: Rare Card? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8863.msg104913#msg104913
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2010, 10:01:11 pm »
Fractal isn't a rare card, but Miracle is. The "spends all  :aether quanta" was a nerf that was put in place.
Wasn't it nerfed before coming into the game?
Err, yes, it was. So?
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Re: Rare Card? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8863.msg105196#msg105196
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2010, 05:04:41 am »
Fractal isn't a rare card, but Miracle is. The "spends all  :aether quanta" was a nerf that was put in place.
Wasn't it nerfed before coming into the game?
Err, yes, it was. So?
If it came into the game with the side effect of draining all aether quanta shouldn't it be treated as a rare like Miracle since it has the same unique side effect? If not then what's the point of having miracle as a rare? I mean it's not the only card that drains your quanta.

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Re: Rare Card? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8863.msg105201#msg105201
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2010, 05:11:33 am »
They are entirely different cards with entirely different purposes. There is no relation between them other than the fact that they both cost all your quanta of that type. Your argument would be like saying that Eternity shouldnt be rare, because it uses 5 time quanta and a lava golem uses the same 5 fire and isnt rare!

mogv

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Re: Rare Card? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8863.msg105204#msg105204
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2010, 05:15:47 am »
They are entirely different cards with entirely different purposes. There is no relation between them other than the fact that they both cost all your quanta of that type. Your argument would be like saying that Eternity shouldnt be rare, because it uses 5 time quanta and a lava golem uses the same 5 fire and isnt rare!
No... First of all eternity is a weapon. Second of all what I'm trying to say is there is nothing that distinguishes Miracle from the rest of the cards anymore so why should it be treated as a rare?  Weapons are weapons and nymphs (yes I noticed why arctic squid is rare) should be treated as rares because their abilities are spells.


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Re: Rare Card? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8863.msg105206#msg105206
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2010, 05:22:22 am »
Uh is there any other spell that can heal for 98 damage in the game? I didnt think so. And if you use it with cards like Shard of destiny and stone skin, it can actually heal for up to 518 with just one ability :P.

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Re: Rare Card? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8863.msg105208#msg105208
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2010, 05:28:35 am »
Uh is there any other spell that can heal for 98 damage in the game? I didnt think so. And if you use it with cards like Shard of destiny and stone skin, it can actually heal for up to 518 with just one ability :P.

Honestly don't even go there with your argument. Miracle was unique because of its self quanta draining side effect NOT because of it's healing ability. If you honestly use that as your main argument then Firefly Queen should be rare because it is the only card which produces fireflies :S

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Re: Rare Card? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8863.msg105209#msg105209
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2010, 05:30:48 am »
Really? The card is a rare, aka hard to get and useful card, because it drains all your quanta? How does that make any sense? It is by far the most powerful healing spell in the game. Rare cards are generally rare because they have some special effect that makes them more useful than regular cards. Miracle's special effect is that it heals all your hp except one point, no matter what your max/current hp is.

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Re: Rare Card? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8863.msg105210#msg105210
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2010, 05:32:42 am »
Really? The card is a rare, aka hard to get and useful card, because it drains all your quanta? How does that make any sense? It is by far the most powerful healing spell in the game. Rare cards are generally rare because they have some special effect that makes them more useful than regular cards. Miracle's special effect is that it heals all your hp except one point, no matter what your max/current hp is.
More useful than regular cards? You mean Miracles overpowered...

 

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