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Adobe Flash - any other platforms? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46639.msg1039615#msg1039615
« on: February 07, 2013, 11:55:39 am »
Hi,
I worry about Elements because it needs Adobe Flash. I see Adobe Flash will die (no support, ex. Android); does it mean Elements will also die? Or will it be ported to an other platform?

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Re: Adobe Flash - any other platforms? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46639.msg1039620#msg1039620
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2013, 12:45:48 pm »
Flash will die? For real?
I never heard that before. Any source or news link?
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Re: Adobe Flash - any other platforms? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46639.msg1039638#msg1039638
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2013, 01:20:30 pm »
Flash will die? For real?
I never heard that before. Any source or news link?

It's based more on the fact that less devices are supporting Flash and other sites that run Flash are changing over to other platforms.

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Re: Adobe Flash - any other platforms? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46639.msg1039639#msg1039639
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2013, 01:23:20 pm »
It won't die, just stop being actualized. The flash apps will still work.
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Re: Adobe Flash - any other platforms? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46639.msg1039662#msg1039662
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2013, 03:14:39 pm »
In mobile, yes it will die.
In computers, no it won't die.
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Re: Adobe Flash - any other platforms? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46639.msg1039713#msg1039713
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2013, 06:00:19 pm »
Actually it works even for android: There are many ways to get flash player on it, naming the ones I tried:
  • Simply install it, there are hundreds of videos that show how to do it.
  • Root your phone and get a custom rom with flash player integrated.
  • Use Puffin Browser, the free version is made so you have 14 days of flash support.



For PC I don't think it will ever die btw, flash support is needed to use youtube, which is a too big website to be left away.
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Re: Adobe Flash - any other platforms? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46639.msg1039759#msg1039759
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2013, 07:23:44 pm »
The discussion about flash (and other technologies running as container in the browser, like Silverlight) isn't new.
Adobe and other related companies will for sure not let it die - it's one of their most famous products - so there shouldn't be any risk of this kind, especially on PCs. But Google, Apple and other mobile device producers are not supporting these kind of technologies for several reasons (HTML5 is evolving as concurrent standard; container-like technologies - as flash - are an issue for security, performance, battery usage on mobiles ..). I understand some of their arguments, but don't agree with all of them, especially since they are just ignoring the reality or more specifically the fact that there are millions of sites out there using flash and they are limiting significantly the possibility to surf on pages through their mobile clients.

Btw: Puffin Browser works quite well, even though it's a bit slow. But there is also a reason for that: they are preprocessing everything on their servers and only the interaction of the user with the page/flash is on the client side. Fun approach - made me laugh - somehow some lateral thinker is always coming up with the most curious but working idea to achieve what other people are trying to prevent :D

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Re: Adobe Flash - any other platforms? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46639.msg1039814#msg1039814
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2013, 09:38:23 pm »
Actually it works even for android: There are many ways to get flash player on it, naming the ones I tried:
  • Simply install it, there are hundreds of videos that show how to do it.
  • Root your phone and get a custom rom with flash player integrated.
  • Use Puffin Browser, the free version is made so you have 14 days of flash support.



For PC I don't think it will ever die btw, flash support is needed to use youtube, which is a too big website to be left away.
Wrong @ Youtube. It is changing over to html5. Many of the videos can be watched just with html5.

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Re: Adobe Flash - any other platforms? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46639.msg1039836#msg1039836
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2013, 10:43:01 pm »
Actually it works even for android: There are many ways to get flash player on it, naming the ones I tried:
  • Simply install it, there are hundreds of videos that show how to do it.
  • Root your phone and get a custom rom with flash player integrated.
  • Use Puffin Browser, the free version is made so you have 14 days of flash support.



For PC I don't think it will ever die btw, flash support is needed to use youtube, which is a too big website to be left away.
Wrong @ Youtube. It is changing over to html5. Many of the videos can be watched just with html5.

html5 on YT isn't complete yet.  Last I checked, only a choice few videos are and the project as a whole is still under testing.

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Re: Adobe Flash - any other platforms? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46639.msg1039951#msg1039951
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2013, 03:22:56 am »
Actually it works even for android: There are many ways to get flash player on it, naming the ones I tried:
  • Simply install it, there are hundreds of videos that show how to do it.
  • Root your phone and get a custom rom with flash player integrated.
  • Use Puffin Browser, the free version is made so you have 14 days of flash support.



For PC I don't think it will ever die btw, flash support is needed to use youtube, which is a too big website to be left away.
Wrong @ Youtube. It is changing over to html5. Many of the videos can be watched just with html5.

html5 on YT isn't complete yet.  Last I checked, only a choice few videos are and the project as a whole is still under testing.
I'm watching a whole playlist of videos as I type this with my computer that currently has flash disabled due to a bug with Linux's Flash that prevents it from working at all. (So no reason to have it on, as that just wastes computer power)

 

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