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Most consistent Decks out there? / What kindof decks do you like? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34552.msg436010#msg436010
« on: December 07, 2011, 05:05:35 pm »
Just a question to the community. What are the most consistent to play decks out there?

I have been cruising the forum for decks to use, And i have generally found that the most common and most popular decks are the "fastest" decks. While I appreciate the benefit of being able to win or lose quickly. That is not why I play elements. I like solid strategies. where each time you play you can be pretty much garaunteed that your strategy is going to take, maybe not immediately, but at some point soon in the match. Or decks that can be played multiple ways so that no matter what your hand is you can go with some kind of strategy.

The problem with rushes and the like, is that often your speed is completely dependent on what cards happen to be at the top of you deck. And nothing turns me off to playing more than sitting there turn after turn, waiting for a SN, in the "fastest" speedbow. Maybe that only happens like one in ten matches, but that one match is the one that pisses me off and causes me to stop playing and cruise the forums instead.

I do not mind losing, if my strategy worked but the opponent had a slightly better strategy or got lucky with their draws, what I really dislike is when a deck cant even put up a fight because the cards it needs were never drawn.

I could go through the trouble of designing a deck like that myself. but as it turns out. I am a terrible deck maker. So i wanted to get peoples opinions.

Even if you cant help me. Feel free to post what kind of decks you like/dislike and why.

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Re: Most consistent Decks out there? / What kindof decks do you like? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34552.msg436011#msg436011
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2011, 05:12:17 pm »
The problem with consistency is that in Elements it generally requires you to be able to recover and play your strategy regardless of what your draw is.  In this aspect, most Mono decks reign supreme because they can fuel themselves off of a single form of quanta and not worry about not having enough Pends, Supernova, etc.  Cremation and Supernova lead to faster decks, but they're both highly unstable with their draws and missing a single piece can lead to utter failure.

Another method to increasing stability is increasing draw power.  Stalls can be fairly inconsistent depending on the size due to the chances of drawing key cards needed to keep the stall alive long enough to win.  Hourglasses, Golden Nymphs, Sundials and Precognitions can all make getting that one card you need much easier.

Personally I prefer Mono decks for supreme stability.  A deck like USEM is a prime example of a deck that executes its game plan every single game without fail (granted the deck can still be countered).
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Re: Most consistent Decks out there? / What kindof decks do you like? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34552.msg436012#msg436012
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2011, 05:21:50 pm »
Yes Usem does come to mind as a good example of a consistent deck. I have tried it in trainer and I like it. (wish i had more than 3 life cards upped though so i can use it in real life).

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Re: Most consistent Decks out there? / What kindof decks do you like? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34552.msg436013#msg436013
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2011, 05:29:43 pm »
I disagree. rainbow decks are stable. If you play 6 supernova's and 10 quantum towers in a deck that contains 30 cars, you won't have any problem! it can go as fast as any mono rush deck, emptying your hand in the first 4-5 turns. But instead of playing graboid and other agro creatures, you play oty,  fallen druid, ultharid, puly, hourglass, mindgate and so on....
everything that gives you a card advantage in the long run wil do! oty will even take out thos attackers. and because rush strategies don't pack much of cc, you have nothing to worry about.
Sundials can buy you time for digging up that miracle! and in the end your dissipation field will be so big that even with tons of creatures you wont take any dammage.
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Re: Most consistent Decks out there? / What kindof decks do you like? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34552.msg436024#msg436024
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2011, 06:04:55 pm »
I disagree. rainbow decks are stable. If you play 6 supernova's and 10 quantum towers in a deck that contains 30 cars, you won't have any problem! it can go as fast as any mono rush deck, emptying your hand in the first 4-5 turns. But instead of playing graboid and other agro creatures, you play oty,  fallen druid, ultharid, puly, hourglass, mindgate and so on....
everything that gives you a card advantage in the long run wil do! oty will even take out thos attackers. and because rush strategies don't pack much of cc, you have nothing to worry about.
Sundials can buy you time for digging up that miracle! and in the end your dissipation field will be so big that even with tons of creatures you wont take any dammage.
Rainbow control rules!!
Id like to see that. Do have a good example of a rainbow control deck (deck code)?

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Re: Most consistent Decks out there? / What kindof decks do you like? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34552.msg436052#msg436052
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2011, 08:19:39 pm »
Actually a rainbow control deck plays 22 tower for me (approximately obv) and mass CC and card advantage + PC + draw + an awesome kill (like a quinted forest specter or steam machine)

I like classic Speedbow for my part mono death deck and also mono darkness and mono gravity
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Re: Most consistent Decks out there? / What kindof decks do you like? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34552.msg436303#msg436303
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2011, 03:06:13 pm »
for that pesky pvp1 i use a mono deck  :aether u can use it couple diff ways keeps u into game well keeps me going anyhow i use 14 pillars 6 dragons 6 sheilds 4-5 lightning and when fighting other  :aether decks its always nice to have a couple mindgates also found if u use mindgate pearallel universe lightning combo deal not exat on cards but i have good results with it as well and mindgate lets u play more then just a  :aether deck all the time mixs it up makes for some sweety palm fun  :P

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Re: Most consistent Decks out there? / What kindof decks do you like? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34552.msg436338#msg436338
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2011, 05:10:27 pm »
  Cremation and Supernova lead to faster decks, but they're both highly unstable with their draws and missing a single piece can lead to utter failure.

Totally agreed.  Just drew 4 photons and no immolations in starting hand -.-

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Re: Most consistent Decks out there? / What kindof decks do you like? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34552.msg436507#msg436507
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2011, 12:32:09 am »
The most consistent decks are probably mono decks due to their reliance on one type of quanta.  This is a somewhat subjective question, though, so that's all I'll say about that.

What kind of decks do I like?  I prefer control decks the most.  If you've ever played Magic: the Gathering, and know what Weissman's "The Deck" is (it later evolved into "Keeper" and maybe something else since; haven't followed that community in recent years), that's the kind of player I am.  I like to play slowly and carefully, and keep my opponent from being able to do anything.  My favourite elements deck is my own take on rainbow control, but other decks I like are discord/black hole, 500hp EM, I've got GotP Time, and that kind of thing.

I'm less of a fan of rush decks, primarily because they take less skill to play, especially against another rush deck.  Seeing who can play the most lava destroyers first in cremation rush isn't exactly a skill-based thing :p  Against a control deck, a rush deck does require more skill, but only because of the interaction between your deck and theirs.  For instance, against a firestall, knowing when to play your creatures or not requires skilled decision-making.  Against a monolife deck without carapaces, for instance, you pretty much just play them all as soon as you can.

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Re: Most consistent Decks out there? / What kindof decks do you like? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34552.msg436718#msg436718
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2011, 03:43:22 pm »
Mono decks tend to be more consistent (Mono- :life and - :aether are probably the best known), but you can still get 7-tower draws. Rainbows can also be pretty consistent, however, especially when they don't require SNs. Surprisingly, SoSe-bow is very consistent despite most of your cards being random.

In general, combos of more than two cards are not consistent. That's why decks like Aflatoxin + Skull Shield + Condor + Plague aren't used much. Probably you won't draw all of the cards you need for ten turns.

I definitely prefer control decks to rushes - although I admit Powerful Wyrms is a lot of fun to play. :) Entropy is one of my favorite elements for this reason, plus the randomness. Healing is also a lot of fun - it's always nice to have 172 HP when facing a rush deck. :P
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Re: Most consistent Decks out there? / What kindof decks do you like? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34552.msg436767#msg436767
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2011, 07:04:03 pm »
I wouldn't say that all Monos are consistent, as mono Light (Pegasi with Air Mark) is a combo based deck and you get bad draws sometimes (more or less depending on your variation). Mono Fire as well due to how its main attackers (Phoenix and Crimson Dragon) are so large.

Mono Life and Mono Aether are pretty consistent, thought if you do an Adrenaline Mono Life you can get bad ish draws. The most consistent Mono would be Classic Unupped Mono Death, IMO. Primarily, it consumes quanta very well as its three attackers (Mummy, Poison, Dragon) cover the entire quanta consumption spectrum. It's also very consistent since Poisons can't be controlled/blocked (psht no one uses Purify).

 

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