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Re: Mono vs Mono https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21439.msg274293#msg274293
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2011, 01:27:41 am »
Can we go to the next element like   :lifebig?

Re: Mono vs Mono https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21439.msg274340#msg274340
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2011, 03:34:59 am »
Can we go to the next element like   :lifebig?
we go to another element when I say so, which is next saturday..
and the next element is air, so be patient

also, vote reset, since most are confused..
you are voting for elements that does BAD against the elements i name, which is aether in this case
plz vote again

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Re: Mono vs Mono https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21439.msg274353#msg274353
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2011, 03:50:55 am »
I hate that just about everyone sees mono-aether as a stall, and as dim shield at the head of it, basically people are just stating, which element does badly against dim shield... (Or well in some cases)
My votes:
Time, Fractal Bursts, no reversible creatures, immortality.
Life, can recover damage, but Fractal is still killer here, specially if you take opponent by surprise.
Finally I think ill go with Water, just not great overall, and has even more weakness here as CC is pretty much useless, vs creatures that die at end of turn.
This deck is what I use for all those newb's out there, that think Aether cant rush. Being simple minded is what leads to defeat. I welcome all challenger's who think Aether cant rush, Ill chop off your head, and prove a point at one time.
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Re: Mono vs Mono https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21439.msg274404#msg274404
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2011, 05:04:24 am »
No remove vote...? :-[

I put entropy but on second thought I would like to change that...

Re: Mono vs Mono https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21439.msg274408#msg274408
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2011, 05:18:56 am »
No remove vote...? :-[

I put entropy but on second thought I would like to change that...
after the reset, it seems to have disabled "remove vote" option
anyone got any idea as to how to turn it back on?
(yes, i tried the "edit poll" button)

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Re: Mono vs Mono https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21439.msg274498#msg274498
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2011, 08:58:49 am »
aether owns mono water if we are playing same mark monos. mono aether alse beats mono air and time if they are same mark monos.
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Re: Mono vs Mono https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21439.msg274506#msg274506
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2011, 09:10:51 am »
aether owns mono water if we are playing same mark monos. mono aether alse beats mono air and time if they are same mark monos.
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Well, not that it's really important, but he did same mark. So :water doesn't have chrysaora (and :air doesn't have UG), though :water still has the bolts, which combined with ice shield should be sufficient.

I'd like to ask are we asking how typical monos would matchup, or are we asking when the opponents know what they're facing? For example, life might be able to build some sort of emphatic bond stall that would do alright against aether, but it isn't something that you would typically play. The general approach in this thread seems to be the latter.

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Re: Mono vs Mono https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21439.msg274518#msg274518
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2011, 09:58:39 am »
Death all the wayyyyyyyy

Re: Mono vs Mono https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21439.msg274539#msg274539
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2011, 11:43:54 am »
aether owns mono water if we are playing same mark monos. mono aether alse beats mono air and time if they are same mark monos.
Chrysaoras, Icelances. U Jelly?
Well, not that it's really important, but he did same mark. So :water doesn't have chrysaora (and :air doesn't have UG), though :water still has the bolts, which combined with ice shield should be sufficient.

I'd like to ask are we asking how typical monos would matchup, or are we asking when the opponents know what they're facing? For example, life might be able to build some sort of emphatic bond stall that would do alright against aether, but it isn't something that you would typically play. The general approach in this thread seems to be the latter.
it's all theoretical, u decide by how many decks in mono water (any mark allowed, no pends) get owned by mono aether

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Re: Mono vs Mono https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21439.msg274830#msg274830
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2011, 09:03:29 pm »
Death all the wayyyyyyyy
I would recommend justifying your answer, liking Death isn't a justification by the way, also did you even read what the poll is about...
It's which element does worst against Mono-Aether.

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I'm hoping those 3 votes for Death were accidents. Aether is a horrible matchup vs Death.
I agree, Im quite studied in this thanks to War experience, Bone wall stops cold, My variation (Blight), and slows common Mono-Aether enough for poison to rip through it, now with the Skull shield buff it now has one more advantage there.

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Re: Mono vs Mono https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21439.msg274858#msg274858
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2011, 09:17:57 pm »
I'm hoping those 3 votes for Death were accidents. Aether is a horrible matchup vs Death. 

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Re: Mono vs Mono https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21439.msg274876#msg274876
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2011, 09:32:58 pm »
If it gets insanely lucky then probably a Death/Light duo.
No, seriously though, time and air. Neither can hit through phase shields, neither of them can stall. Life and light can at least heal and deckout if they are lucky.
Aether has absolutely nothing it can do against UGs, and it isn't particularly fast either, so air would have a decent chance to set up.

Time seems like a reasonable choice though, since it's best answer is probably dune scorpion, which requires off element cards to function.
If I read the topic correctly, this is mono-deck versus mono-deck. So both Unstable Gas and Dune Scorpions are useless (unless you assume Air can take a Fire mark).

EDIT: Seems you've covered this ground.

In any event it's a bit silly to compare elements based on whether they can field entirely-mono decks or not; it's a simple fact that some elements are stronger with a little bit of off-element splash.

 

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