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Re: Max hp experiment https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11142.msg137525#msg137525
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2010, 02:31:32 pm »
I am not.


It is...

57 * 70 + 100

Am I right, this time?


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Re: Max hp experiment https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11142.msg137526#msg137526
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2010, 02:32:52 pm »
So.



Maximum now is 43 * 70 * 6 + 100



Am I right?
No- as long as you have the quanta for rewinds and mind gates it could technically go on forever. Limited by whatever upper limit has been put on it due to to memory space I guess

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Re: Max hp experiment https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11142.msg137576#msg137576
« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2010, 03:34:14 pm »
This doesn't work anymore. Player hp is now capped at 500.

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Re: Max hp experiment https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11142.msg137577#msg137577
« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2010, 03:37:39 pm »
This doesn't work anymore. Player hp is now capped at 500.
o.O Not even 520...

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Re: Max hp experiment https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11142.msg137655#msg137655
« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2010, 05:22:14 pm »
Using this same method you could test the caps on spells and towers and such too :P. Basically you can get infinite of whatever card you want to test using this which is pretty cool heh.

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Re: Max hp experiment https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11142.msg137855#msg137855
« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2010, 09:39:07 pm »
This doesn't work anymore. Player hp is now capped at 500.
This had to happen for obvious reasons - serious abuse potential.

How serious?  There's no cap to HP yet in Trainer, so did the following to satisfy my curiosity:
- I'm in Top 50, so set my deck with Granite Skins, RoLs, and SoGs
- Played myself in Trainer with a Mindgate deck

It took a lot less time than I thought it would to rack up over 10,000 HP (and didn't have to worry about desynchs).

(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd79982/10250_HP.bmp) (http://imageplay.net/)



Standard EM in T50 is 60 electrum.  What about EM with HPs galore?

(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd79983/EM.bmp) (http://imageplay.net/)

Yikes!!  And this could have gone on, well...forever (almost).

Nice job, Implosion and Xelax, for finding a way to break one of the new cards
benefit all of mankind with your experiment  ;).

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Re: Max hp experiment https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11142.msg137944#msg137944
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2010, 10:55:35 pm »
Lol dam that would have definitely encouraged some new electrum farms in t50 :P. I think the cap should have probably been made to something like 550 though, or at least the 520 that was possible before :P.

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Re: Max hp experiment https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11142.msg137949#msg137949
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2010, 11:15:50 pm »
it saddens me that zanz decided to nerf max HP to 500
sure, there wasnt that many 6 stone skin, 6 SoD decks to begin with but still...
at least now you dont have to wait until you get to 50 :earth to start chaining your skins

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Re: Max hp experiment https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11142.msg137958#msg137958
« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2010, 11:50:20 pm »
That raises the question tho.. How much electrum do you get with an EM at 500hp?! First one to find out gets cookie of AWE

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Re: Max hp experiment https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11142.msg138318#msg138318
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2010, 07:04:46 am »
for FGs, it would be less than 330 because thats what you get if you win with EM at 520 HP
for HBs, <290
for T50, <228
for AI3, <124

i havent bothered to check the exact score/electrum

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Re: Max hp experiment https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11142.msg139412#msg139412
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2010, 10:36:56 pm »
Sadly it was capped, cuz I calculated an absolute number abusing the following:

The Top Deck card is Nightmare.
You use Nightmare.
You get 7 Nightmares.
The Top Deck card is Stone Skin.
You get 12 Stone Skins.
You use Nightmare.
Deck order of opponent now is Nightmare, Stone Skin, Nightmare, Stone Skin....

Following this, you can use Stone Skin 12*7*6=504 times.
Adding the maximum number of SoD´s(12*6=72) and the cards of your deck, you will end up at
27160 HP
Maybe I did a mistake somewhere, but this amount of HP was possible.
But, well this is based on really HUGE luck...would be based, since the HP is capped now.
...if you´d used Eternity the amount would be infinite.

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Re: Max hp experiment https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11142.msg139628#msg139628
« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2010, 05:00:04 am »
Quote
The Top Deck card is Nightmare.
You use Nightmare.
You get 7 Nightmares.
The Top Deck card is Stone Skin.
You get 12 Stone Skins.
You use Nightmare.
Deck order of opponent now is Nightmare, Stone Skin, Nightmare, Stone Skin....
huh?

so you only calculate? not actually test it out? because i'm confused how you're able to replicate 7 nightmares and 12 stone skins and somehow manipulate the stack on your opponent deck like that
someone can explain how is this possible?

 

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