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Re: MasterWalks Card Tier List- Weapons https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66413.msg1281781#msg1281781
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2018, 11:07:48 pm »
Vagger does wreck entire archetypes. It is a 12 hp swing for 2 quanta ffs

Keep in mind that the unupped weapon is being used. 8 HP swing, which is a little less of a significant swing.
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Re: MasterWalks Card Tier List- Weapons https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66413.msg1281791#msg1281791
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2018, 04:04:20 am »
Vagger does wreck entire archetypes. It is a 12 hp swing for 2 quanta ffs
Which archetypes may I ask? I think you overestimate vagger. It's best use is dark domins, and the best dark domin (ghostmare) doesn't even use it.
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Re: MasterWalks Card Tier List- Weapons https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66413.msg1281793#msg1281793
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2018, 06:39:56 am »
If Ghost and Nightmare were introduced today, there's no way a typical Ghostmare wouldn't run VD. The fact that it doesn't is a product of a different era - unless you're specifically predicting a deck Eternity is strong against, or in a primarily unupped meta, there's very little reason not to use it in Ghostmare right now.
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Re: MasterWalks Card Tier List- Weapons https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66413.msg1281794#msg1281794
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2018, 07:41:21 am »
If it is just un-upped then fine, I was thinking of the most commonly used upgrade level of the weapons

I'm enjoying being told I'm overestimating cards.

The 3 most experienced and decorated PVP players in this thread all consider Vagger S tier, but If it is only unupped then fine.
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Re: MasterWalks Card Tier List- Weapons https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66413.msg1281799#msg1281799
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2018, 10:56:10 am »
Talking about unupped it is only 8, but can still hurt a lot. As I like to say Darkness has the best 2-card stall option: Stiletto/Dagger+Dusk.

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Re: MasterWalks Card Tier List- Weapons https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66413.msg1281819#msg1281819
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2018, 08:57:24 pm »
If it is just un-upped then fine, I was thinking of the most commonly used upgrade level of the weapons

I'm enjoying being told I'm overestimating cards.

The 3 most experienced and decorated PVP players in this thread all consider Vagger S tier, but If it is only unupped then fine.

It is un-upped and only un-upped. The beginning of the thread underlines this.

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When reading the reply's, PvP experience is something i consider greatly. But as many experienced PvP players have said in both here and blab, its S Tier when Upped. Un-Upped its a Strong A Tier
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Re: MasterWalks Card Tier List- Weapons https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66413.msg1289330#msg1289330
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2019, 12:37:54 am »
Upped rankings:

Vagger
Discord
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Re: MasterWalks Card Tier List- Weapons https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66413.msg1289332#msg1289332
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2019, 12:43:24 am »
Upped rankings:

Vagger
Discord
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Jade Staff
Eagle's Eye
Titan
Eternity
Poseidon
Pulverizer
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Electrocutor
Long Sword
Morning Glory
Gavel
Longbow
Dirk

Yea thats going to be a no from me man.

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Jade Staff
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Re: MasterWalks Card Tier List- Weapons https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66413.msg1289339#msg1289339
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2019, 04:54:29 am »
yeah how you gonna put upped druidic staff as 3rd best
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Re: MasterWalks Card Tier List- Weapons https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66413.msg1289351#msg1289351
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2019, 11:59:57 am »
yeah how you gonna put upped druidic staff as 3rd best

Tbh, Druidic/Jade Stuff without Animate Weapon & Adrenaline is both underrated & underused a lot. But, if you think about it, it is the most similar weapon to Vagger. Yeah, Vagger does more damage/healing but only if your opponent does not use a DR shield. There are enough shield-related situations where Jade Stuff is FAR better than Vagger...
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Re: MasterWalks Card Tier List- Weapons https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66413.msg1289352#msg1289352
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2019, 12:06:01 pm »
Sure it's good, I don't think anyone is going to argue that it's usable, and has varying uses in any life deck that doesn't have a better slot (especially mono), but comparing it to the likes of Eagles Eye, and a few others, it seems a bit underwhelming.
I personally wouldn't rate Titan as high, sure CataTitans is a thing but I find Electrocutor to be a fair bit higher than rated currently

 

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