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Is grinding FG realy worth it? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35739.msg449928#msg449928
« on: January 17, 2012, 06:03:45 pm »
I've been scrolling true the decks on the forum and noticed the vast aray of false god decks.
is grinding false gods realy that big? Does it give realy give you that much money?
The decks are all upped. Seems like a big investement. Does it pay off?
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Re: Is grinding FG realy worth it? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35739.msg449936#msg449936
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2012, 06:25:30 pm »
It does. Farming FG is by far the best way to get a lot of money and upped card.
RoL Hope seems to be the best farmer in my opinion, try it. Moreover it works with only 6 uppgrade
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Re: Is grinding FG realy worth it? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35739.msg449937#msg449937
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2012, 06:26:25 pm »
It does. Farming FG is by far the best way to get a lot of money and upped card.
RoL Hope seems to be the best farmer in my opinion, try it. Moreover it works with only 6 uppgrade
Those 6 upped cards. Those are RoL's , right?
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Re: Is grinding FG realy worth it? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35739.msg449938#msg449938
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2012, 06:28:40 pm »
Yes, the deck works better with all the uppgrade but with only 6 Ray of Light you'll win quickly tons of upped cards.
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Re: Is grinding FG realy worth it? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35739.msg449946#msg449946
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2012, 07:04:23 pm »
isnt Instosis considered the best FG farmer now?

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Re: Is grinding FG realy worth it? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35739.msg449949#msg449949
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2012, 07:23:00 pm »
Yes it's a good FG farmer too, maybe the best
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Re: Is grinding FG realy worth it? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35739.msg449950#msg449950
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2012, 07:24:10 pm »
seems to me instosis needs a lot of upgrades.
Rol doesn't, right?
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Re: Is grinding FG realy worth it? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35739.msg449952#msg449952
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2012, 07:29:58 pm »
RoL/hope works almost as good without the uppgrade, they just add some speed.
Instosis can work unupped (with only SN upped though) but will be way more slow (sundial will cost time quanta, you'll pay twice the cost to draw one with a HG..)
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Re: Is grinding FG realy worth it? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35739.msg449956#msg449956
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2012, 07:47:36 pm »
Instosis can work unupped (with only SN upped though) but will be way more slow (sundial will cost time quanta, you'll pay twice the cost to draw one with a HG..)
and unupped shards will more likely consume air quanta needed for sky blitz.
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Re: Is grinding FG realy worth it? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35739.msg449957#msg449957
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2012, 07:49:39 pm »
Silurian Dragon is also vital for your winrate.
It is possible to win without, but then it is impossible to OTK, given you don't have a pet.
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Re: Is grinding FG realy worth it? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35739.msg449967#msg449967
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2012, 09:14:14 pm »
Yes, because every card you win from FGs is upgraded when you win it, so you either save the upgrade cost or can sell it for 1100+ electrum if you don't want it.  Also, unlike most other AI/arena levels, FGs are predictable because they have predesigned decks, rather than random (like halfbloods) or ever-changing (like arena).

I'm not sure whether FGs or platinum arena is more profitable.  Arena definitely gets you more score, because you're getting hundreds of electrum per win (over 400 electrum for platinum EM) while FGs get you upped cards, but an EM is only worth 120 electrum.

Also remember to use the oracle FG predictions.  If you know a certain FG is coming, you can usually build a deck specifically for that FG to wtfpwn it.  For example, wings wtfpwns serket because he has no flying creatures, sanctuary wtfpwns decay's pests, gravity shield shuts down a few decks almost completely, and so on.  For some of them, you can win fairly effectively even with no upgrades, or just a few.

About RoL/Hope: A lot of people swear by this, but it's actually not a very good deck.  If you have few upgrades, it's probably alright to start, but I tried building a fully upped RoL/Hope deck because everyone raved about it, but it won way less than my rainbow control deck and was far less enjoyable even when it did win.  If you don't care if your games are boring, Instosis has a fantastic win rate (like 70%) but it's no fun at all to play, because all you're doing is spamming sundials and hourglasses.  If you've got very little electrum, I can see starting with it, but if you've got lots of upgrades already, don't waste your time with RoL/Hope, because you can build decks that win twice as often or more and do it faster if you have fully upped decks.

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Re: Is grinding FG realy worth it? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35739.msg450007#msg450007
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2012, 11:33:52 pm »
Yes, because every card you win from FGs is upgraded when you win it, so you either save the upgrade cost or can sell it for 1100+ electrum if you don't want it.

Instosis has a fantastic win rate (like 70%)
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in my opinion, FG grinding > platinum arena. Win rate is usually much higher against FGs, and it should be more profitable because you don't win much electrum in platinum arena unless you are able to EM, which is rather difficult to do consistently.

Also, if you face a FG that you know you can't beat, you can exit out right away. This allows for more efficient grinding.

 

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