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lskpiano

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Is AI5 a Fair Test of Survivability Against False Gods? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24830.msg316506#msg316506
« on: April 20, 2011, 10:01:30 pm »
Is it a fair statement that if your deck can't survive against Half Bloods, there's no way you'll survive against False Gods? In general, I mean. And not beating, just surviving a decent number of turns.

It may seem obvious but it just occurred to me. Interested in what others think.

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Re: Is AI5 a Fair Test of Survivability Against False Gods? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24830.msg316509#msg316509
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2011, 10:04:44 pm »
Decks which are good against FG will do  good against HB as well. However you might beat HB and get pwned against FG.
elementsthegame.com/trainer.html (http://elementsthegame.com/trainer.html) if you want to test ;)

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Re: Is AI5 a Fair Test of Survivability Against False Gods? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24830.msg316515#msg316515
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2011, 10:15:05 pm »
However you might beat HB and get pwned against FG.
Absolutely. I just wondered if the reverse was true, meaning if you can't beat HB, no way will you beat FG. Makes sense.

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Re: Is AI5 a Fair Test of Survivability Against False Gods? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24830.msg316528#msg316528
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2011, 10:29:53 pm »
half bloods are easy as pie. They are in no way to be compared to false gods in terms of difficulty.

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Re: Is AI5 a Fair Test of Survivability Against False Gods? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24830.msg316567#msg316567
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2011, 11:05:23 pm »
half bloods are easy as pie. They are in no way to be compared to false gods in terms of difficulty.
Of course not. My point is slightly different. Can you think of a deck that can beat FGs that can't beat HBs? In other words, is ability to beat HBs necessary but not sufficient to beating FGs.

Just a philosophical or logic question. I obviously have too much time on my hands. ::)

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Re: Is AI5 a Fair Test of Survivability Against False Gods? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24830.msg316572#msg316572
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2011, 11:10:07 pm »
A simple fire stall or mono aether will beat almost any HB, but only selected or none FG. HB, imho, are only worth until you get a good deck against FG.

Try trainer if you wanna prepare for FG, HB is a different pie :)

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Re: Is AI5 a Fair Test of Survivability Against False Gods? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24830.msg316574#msg316574
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2011, 11:11:33 pm »
There are some decks that are good against CERTAIN FG that will never do against HB. For example a single permanent control spells some losses for some decks

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Re: Is AI5 a Fair Test of Survivability Against False Gods? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24830.msg316591#msg316591
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2011, 11:26:26 pm »
There are some decks that are good against CERTAIN FG that will never do against HB. For example a single permanent control spells some losses for some decks
Now, that's interesting. In other words, against FGs with no perm control, you can design a deck without worrying about it, but HBs will almost always have some form of it.

Okay, let's narrow the question. Can you think of a  :rainbow FG deck that can't also beat HBs? Just curious.

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Re: Is AI5 a Fair Test of Survivability Against False Gods? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24830.msg316593#msg316593
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2011, 11:28:34 pm »
There are some decks that are good against CERTAIN FG that will never do against HB. For example a single permanent control spells some losses for some decks
Now, that's interesting. In other words, against FGs with no perm control, you can design a deck without worrying about it, but HBs will almost always have some form of it.

Okay, let's narrow the question. Can you think of a  :rainbow FG deck that can't also beat HBs? Just curious.

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http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10453.0.html

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Re: Is AI5 a Fair Test of Survivability Against False Gods? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24830.msg316638#msg316638
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2011, 01:15:10 am »
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10453.0.html
Cool. I hadn't stumbled across that deck yet. I'll give it a try. Always open to a new learning experience.

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Re: Is AI5 a Fair Test of Survivability Against False Gods? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24830.msg316670#msg316670
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2011, 01:55:17 am »
Obvious answer is obvious. Higher level is generally stronger, though may be not always. I just wonder can someone win against both of them with no upgraded card at all?
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Water -> Fire -> Air -> Earth -> Lightning -> Metal -> Light -> Darkness -> Wood -> Water

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Re: Is AI5 a Fair Test of Survivability Against False Gods? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24830.msg316997#msg316997
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2011, 04:18:25 pm »
AFAIK RoL/Hope will struggle against some HB, especially those has more PC and CC. I can't really think of any that CAN'T beat HBs though.

 

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