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Interesting Facts https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19931.msg252585#msg252585
« on: January 20, 2011, 03:25:10 pm »
Here are some interesting facts which are related to the general concepts of certain cards or elements,
of course this is NOT meant to imply anything about the game, just interesting facts  ;) .

if you find something more and feel the need to share, Feel free to do so here.

here are my findings so far:

Fire´s Not Lava (http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/volcanowatch/1997/97_09_05.html)

What is Entropy? (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-entropy.htm)

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Re: Interesting Facts https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19931.msg252597#msg252597
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2011, 03:37:52 pm »
Now I know more what the word "Entropy" means, when I started the game I had no idea what "Entropy" or "Aether" was ;)
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Re: Interesting Facts https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19931.msg252631#msg252631
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2011, 04:24:33 pm »
Now I know more what the word "Entropy" means, when I started the game I had no idea what "Entropy" or "Aether" was ;)
If you really want to know what Aether is, check these out:

The Aether (http://www.mountainman.com.au/aeth_faq.htm)

The Elements of Nature (http://www.mountainman.com.au/aeon_faq.htm)

Aether (Classical Element) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_(classical_element))

And i have my own basic theory on what Aether is using those sources:

Aether is the very "space" or "area" in which everything occupies,
for example, all planetory and spacial matter has to occupy some sort of space right?
that space is Aether.

there are big discussions and dillemas based on what is more important, Aether (also related to Matter)? or Time?
here are one of those discussions between lots of "super smart people"  :-\:
Matter VS Time (http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtopic=20054)

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Re: Interesting Facts https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19931.msg252667#msg252667
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2011, 06:04:13 pm »
Now I know more what the word "Entropy" means, when I started the game I had no idea what "Entropy" or "Aether" was ;)
If you really want to know what Aether is, check these out:

The Aether (http://www.mountainman.com.au/aeth_faq.htm)

The Elements of Nature (http://www.mountainman.com.au/aeon_faq.htm)

Aether (Classical Element) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_(classical_element))

And i have my own basic theory on what Aether is using those sources:

Aether is the very "space" or "area" in which everything occupies,
for example, all planetory and spacial matter has to occupy some sort of space right?
that space is Aether.

there are big discussions and dillemas based on what is more important, Aether (also related to Matter)? or Time?
here are one of those discussions between lots of "super smart people"  :-\:
Matter VS Time (http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtopic=20054)
Yeah, I knew that for a while, but thanks. I did sure learn something new :)
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Re: Interesting Facts https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19931.msg252673#msg252673
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2011, 06:25:42 pm »
Now I know more what the word "Entropy" means, when I started the game I had no idea what "Entropy" or "Aether" was ;)
If you really want to know what Aether is, check these out:

The Aether (http://www.mountainman.com.au/aeth_faq.htm)

The Elements of Nature (http://www.mountainman.com.au/aeon_faq.htm)

Aether (Classical Element) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_(classical_element))

And i have my own basic theory on what Aether is using those sources:

Aether is the very "space" or "area" in which everything occupies,
for example, all planetory and spacial matter has to occupy some sort of space right?
that space is Aether.

there are big discussions and dillemas based on what is more important, Aether (also related to Matter)? or Time?
here are one of those discussions between lots of "super smart people"  :-\:
Matter VS Time (http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtopic=20054)
Yeah, I knew that for a while, but thanks. I did sure learn something new :)
lol sorry i had the impression you didn´t know,  but what about that debate thing on Matter VS Time?
there´s some crazy equations and theories goin on in there lol.

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Re: Interesting Facts https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19931.msg252723#msg252723
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2011, 07:51:17 pm »
Well at least everyone should know what Gravity is, no?

Without it, you won't be on this planet right now. :P
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Re: Interesting Facts https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19931.msg252757#msg252757
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2011, 08:31:43 pm »
Well at least everyone should know what Gravity is, no?

Without it, you won't be on this planet right now. :P
lol definitely,
 i reckon that its correct that entropy should be the opposite of gravity, since gravity pertains to a certain "Order"
of things such as planetary gravitational forces and the gravitational pull of our solar system intends to make this element an element of "Order"

On the other hand, Entropy is based on a repetetive state of "Disorder"of things,
an example of such is: cleaning and sorting your office, which then inevitably becomes dirty and disorganized.
and its not just human examples but also those of nature such as bush fires, which eventually lose their energy and die down. which makes this element an element of "Disorder"

and so Gravity should be the opposite of Entropy  :)

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Re: Interesting Facts https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19931.msg252830#msg252830
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2011, 09:56:42 pm »
i always saw aether spelled 'ether'. or is it different things...
anyway, i read that scientests imagined another dimension called ether. after all, light is a wave, yet it can still travel through space where there is nothing to 'wave' on. therefor, scientists though light traveled in this other dimension. named ether.

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Re: Interesting Facts https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19931.msg252845#msg252845
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2011, 10:10:42 pm »
Entropy seems like a chaotic chemical to me but not the opposite to Gravity.

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Re: Interesting Facts https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19931.msg252851#msg252851
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2011, 10:17:36 pm »
Entropy seems like a chaotic chemical to me but not the opposite to Gravity.
1) Zanz has decreed  :entropy the opposite of  :gravity and  :aether the opposite of  :time.
2) Nova is not chaotic but is entropic.
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Re: Interesting Facts https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19931.msg252908#msg252908
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2011, 11:51:23 pm »
Entropy seems like a chaotic chemical to me but not the opposite to Gravity.
1) Zanz has decreed  :entropy the opposite of  :gravity and  :aether the opposite of  :time.
2) Nova is not chaotic but is entropic.
its not a chemical, because entropy is what i call a repetetive state of "disorder", therefore it has no physical property but rather influences other physical properties such as the molecular dissarrangement of a chemical.
Gravity on the other hand represents a form of "Order" and isn´t as spontaneous as Entropy since it has only a single state of equilibrium, therefore i concur that  :gravity is potentially the opposite of  :entropy.

From what ive learnt of this article : Entropy and disorder (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/therm/entrop.html#e3), Entropy is "disorder" and to cause disorder, it needs "multiplicity". what it means by Multiplicity, is the amount of molecules that can be disarranged in a single space of matter. The greater the multiplicity, the greater the Disorder.

Randomness can be associated with "Information Entropy" which is an indicator of how much information a single event holds. The more information that single event has, the more uncertain or random the ending result of that event can be.
this can be related to multiplicity:

for example: you roll a pair of dies, and you aim for a 7.
there are three ways with which you can produce a 7, meanwhile there is only one way to produce a 2 or 3,
two ways to produce a 4 or 5, and three ways to produce a 6.

6 and 7 have the greatest multiplicity. therefore its more possible to produce either a 6 or 7.
and in total there are 12 possible outcomes, therefore that is the level of Randomness of the die.

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Re: Interesting Facts https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19931.msg252917#msg252917
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2011, 12:08:50 am »
i always saw aether spelled 'ether'. or is it different things...
anyway, i read that scientests imagined another dimension called ether. after all, light is a wave, yet it can still travel through space where there is nothing to 'wave' on. therefor, scientists though light traveled in this other dimension. named ether.
"Aether (sometimes colloquially shortened to ether) is an ancient concept dating back into antiquity. The spelling "Aether" is used to help avoid the inevitable confusion of its similarity to the chemical compound ether, thus the old saw, "Aether is the medium of space while ether is the gas that knocks you out". However, although it is technically incorrect, both spelling are currently used interchangeably." says the article "The Aether".

Ether is the stuff they actually use for anesthetic purposes in surgery as well as it being used in other organic compounds.
so says this article Ether (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ether)

 

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