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Immolation to strong? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8289.msg94437#msg94437
« on: June 17, 2010, 07:32:12 pm »
In my opinion Immolation/Cremation make red deck to strong.
Nova give 3 random quantum for free,supernova 6 for 2 and Immolation 7 fire + bonus for each non fire element and cost is only immolation of 1 creature -  this in the main Photon or fire Eater (0/1 cost).
So almost for free red deck player can make in 1st turn Lava Golem,Phoenix.
   Generally red deck is very powerfull and easy to play - 2 growth creatures (with mayby the best in this kind Golem),Deflagration,Immolation,2 attack spells-Rain of Fire and fire Bolt,the best shields
that do damage (cost 6/4 and Thorn Carapace 7 and 75% to infect) Fahreheit that can win battle alone by a many of red quanta... ???

I'm think Immolation shout not bee for free..
 

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Re: Immolation to strong? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8289.msg94440#msg94440
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2010, 07:35:58 pm »
In my opinion Immolation/Cremation make red deck to strong.
Nova give 3 random quantum for free,supernova 6 for 2 and Immolation 7 fire + bonus for each non fire element and cost is only immolation of 1 creature -  this in the main Photon or fire Eater (0/1 cost).
So almost for free red deck player can make in 1st turn Lava Golem,Phoenix.
   Generally red deck is very strong and easy to play - 2 growth creatures (with mayby the best in this kind Golem),Deflagration,Immolation,2 attack spells-Rain of Fire and fire Bolt,the best shields
that do damage (cost 6/4 and Thorn Carapace 7 and 75% to infect) Fahreheit that can win battle alone by a many of red quanta... ???

I'm think Immolation shout not bee for free..
Add thunderstorm and watch your opponents deck die and cry.
or Fire Shield or Rewind or Otyugh.

There are plenty of solutions. It just appears strong because its fast but any denial is cheaper and kills the rush.

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Re: Immolation to strong? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8289.msg94451#msg94451
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2010, 07:54:07 pm »
In my opinion Immolation/Cremation make red deck to strong.
Nova give 3 random quantum for free,supernova 6 for 2 and Immolation 7 fire + bonus for each non fire element and cost is only immolation of 1 creature -  this in the main Photon or fire Eater (0/1 cost).
So almost for free red deck player can make in 1st turn Lava Golem,Phoenix.
   Generally red deck is very powerfull and easy to play - 2 growth creatures (with mayby the best in this kind Golem),Deflagration,Immolation,2 attack spells-Rain of Fire and fire Bolt,the best shields
that do damage (cost 6/4 and Thorn Carapace 7 and 75% to infect) Fahreheit that can win battle alone by a many of red quanta... ???

I'm think Immolation shout not bee for free..
What are you talking about? Nova give 1 of each, and Supernova give 2 of each.
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Re: Immolation to strong? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8289.msg94496#msg94496
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2010, 08:34:03 pm »
Any deck that focuses on Immolation can easily be controlled if you get some control cards in your starting hand.

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Re: Immolation to strong? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8289.msg94510#msg94510
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2010, 08:46:45 pm »
In my opinion Immolation/Cremation make red deck to strong.
Nova give 3 random quantum for free,supernova 6 for 2 and Immolation 7 fire + bonus for each non fire element and cost is only immolation of 1 creature -  this in the main Photon or fire Eater (0/1 cost).
So almost for free red deck player can make in 1st turn Lava Golem,Phoenix.
   Generally red deck is very powerfull and easy to play - 2 growth creatures (with mayby the best in this kind Golem),Deflagration,Immolation,2 attack spells-Rain of Fire and fire Bolt,the best shields
that do damage (cost 6/4 and Thorn Carapace 7 and 75% to infect) Fahreheit that can win battle alone by a many of red quanta... ???

I'm think Immolation shout not bee for free..
What are you talking about? Nova give 1 of each, and Supernova give 2 of each.
Yes, Purespiritt, Nova gives 12 and Supernovas gives practically 22; or did you meant the quantum tower?

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Re: Immolation to strong? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8289.msg94553#msg94553
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2010, 09:16:16 pm »
While yes it is powerful, it is also very prone to bad starts so it kind of balances out imo. If they get a great starting hand then yes they can play a destroyer first turn, but they have to get a photon, a cremation, and a destroyer in starting hand for that to happen. And even then its easy to kill if you have any creature control i your hand.

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Re: Immolation to strong? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8289.msg94570#msg94570
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2010, 09:28:15 pm »
I think the hardest thing for this kind of deck is rewind. He wont get further Immolations and Photons for at least 1 or 2 turns(depending on the number of golems he played and rewinds you have) and cant play his golem again.
A black hole will be nice too.

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Re: Immolation to strong? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8289.msg94573#msg94573
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2010, 09:31:59 pm »
okay - I know people have said it already but things wrong with this post/thread:

Title should say "Immolation too strong?"
Nova gives 12 (1 of each quanta)
SuperNova gives 24 (2 of each quanta but costs 2 :entropy to play)
Red quanta... -- Fire quanta  :fire

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Re: Immolation to strong? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8289.msg95113#msg95113
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2010, 04:07:44 pm »
Killfer8 say - "Yes, Purespiritt, Nova gives 12 and Supernovas gives practically 22; or did you meant the quantum tower?

Yes of course sorry for mistake

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Re: Immolation to strong? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8289.msg95359#msg95359
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2010, 09:32:12 pm »
@Puresspiritt
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Yes, Purespiritt, Nova gives 12 and Supernovas gives practically 22; or did you meant the quantum tower?

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Re: Immolation to strong? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8289.msg95431#msg95431
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2010, 11:12:23 pm »
I've always thougt Immolatoin was quite strong.

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Re: Immolation to strong? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8289.msg95481#msg95481
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2010, 12:26:09 am »
Immolation maybe should give quanta according to the creature that is sacrificed?
And, supernova gives 24.

 

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