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i am almost ashamed of the kongregate community right now https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27358.msg347830#msg347830
« on: June 08, 2011, 06:53:42 am »
tyrant, a game created and ran by a money hungry developer has a higher rating than elements. i have one question about this disappointment and a plea to all of you who love elements, but they will come later. first of all, zanzarino, the creator of elements, actually listens to the community's suggestions and feedback. he alters the game so its more enjoyable to play and everyone remains as equal as possible. synapticon, however, does not. he ignores most of the community's concerns and suggestions. you can do very little in that game unless you use real life money. the ever pressing matter of the poor energy system has yet to even be moderately patched. but the energy used for (almost all) of the basic battle features has become separate from war (pvp) energy, which does very little to the situation.  there are dozens of cards that can only be accessed by players who have no desire to use their real life money to get perks only to have to use more money just to be able to use them effectively (hence the poor energy system).
my question:
W T F ?
my plea:
i urge all of you who love elements to go to http://www.kongregate.com/games/zanzarino/elements and rate elements according to your personal belief on what this game deserves.

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Re: i am almost ashamed of the kongregate community right now https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27358.msg347831#msg347831
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2011, 06:56:41 am »
I don't understand how your evidence helps carry your message to your target audience. o_O

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Re: i am almost ashamed of the kongregate community right now https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27358.msg347834#msg347834
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2011, 07:02:50 am »
elements is more enjoyable, its ran better, and (although its art isnt quite as good) of higher quality gameplay
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Re: i am almost ashamed of the kongregate community right now https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27358.msg347835#msg347835
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2011, 07:04:50 am »
elements is more enjoyable, its ran better, and (although its art isnt quite as good) of higher quality gameplay
It simply hasn't been advertised as much as Tyrant. I swear, everywhere I turn, there's a Tyrant ad. If elements were featured more often in ads, we'd get much higher ratings. Alas...
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Re: i am almost ashamed of the kongregate community right now https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27358.msg347836#msg347836
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2011, 07:05:56 am »
elements is more enjoyable, its ran better, and (although its art isnt quite as good) of higher quality gameplay
It simply hasn't been advertised as much as Tyrant. I swear, everywhere I turn, there's a Tyrant ad. If elements were featured more often in ads, we'd get much higher ratings. Alas...
he gets the money for adds from money hogging from his game :P
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Re: i am almost ashamed of the kongregate community right now https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27358.msg347878#msg347878
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2011, 10:51:09 am »
he gets the money for adds from money hogging from his game :P
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Re: i am almost ashamed of the kongregate community right now https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27358.msg347888#msg347888
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2011, 11:51:18 am »
Wow, that´s a big difference between 4,37 and 4,34 !
Tyrant is a younger game, and played more often on kong. We also have elementsthegame.com.
But I´m also surprised, that Tyrant gets such a rating. I have given Elements 5 stars and Tyrant 3.
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Re: i am almost ashamed of the kongregate community right now https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27358.msg347900#msg347900
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2011, 01:02:29 pm »

I don't think you can really compare the two because they are so different.
(A TCG that doesn't use Mana once again! Wow, how innovative!)

From what I hear there are quite a few Elements-veterans playing Tyrant as well
despite probably still swearing bone and blood on Elements ...

Concerning the whole energy, RL-cash thing:
Yes, Tyrant is a highly commercial game.
Nevertheless, I have to say that I haven't yet seen a commercial game being as generous
as Tyrant is ... you can actually afford rares, win them in the lottery etc. 
It's really well done in all sorts of aspects, hence its popularity.


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Re: i am almost ashamed of the kongregate community right now https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27358.msg347911#msg347911
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2011, 01:30:50 pm »
It simply hasn't been advertised as much as Tyrant. I swear, everywhere I turn, there's  Tyrant ad. If elements were featured more often in ads, we'd get much higher ratings. Alas...
I think elements Mechanics are far better than tyrant's however what elements lack is Story & Quests and More Cards (at least 25 in every element)

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Re: i am almost ashamed of the kongregate community right now https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27358.msg347925#msg347925
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2011, 02:40:33 pm »

More Cards (at least 25 in every element)
Now that is something I find a bit ridiculous about Tyrant:

1.000.000 "different" cards ... most of which look and act alike somehow.

I am sure, they only need that many cards to boast variety and sell more
of them to the paying user.


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Re: i am almost ashamed of the kongregate community right now https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27358.msg347928#msg347928
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2011, 02:48:29 pm »
I searched through the Elements comments section where wolfunit regularly posts and there's a surprisingly large amount of negative feedback.

The way the game works is that you have such a learning curve to go through that noobs are even noobier.
You start by learning how to click, and that's basically how you bet AI0.
Then you do some random mods to your deck, and do AI1.
Then you play AI2 and lose a fair amount, and when you play AI3 you're like wth impossible.
Then you play PvP1 a lot, because you actually get the most rewards and winrate there.
Eventually if you work hard you can get your first rare, but T50, AI5, and FGs are so impossibly difficult for most decks...

In general, you can't find the "real" Elements until you sign up here in the forums. This is where you get all your info, advice, etc.

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Re: i am almost ashamed of the kongregate community right now https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27358.msg347945#msg347945
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2011, 03:29:22 pm »
Thanks for pointing this out. I gave it 5 stars! Love this game!

 

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