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Honestly disgusting. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64415.msg1262647#msg1262647
« on: April 17, 2017, 02:19:01 am »
Just about every single deck in Gold Arena is either a stall-out or denial deck, and it's super frustrating. Every single game, I have to worry about my creatures being destroyed as soon as they hit the field, my shards being stolen or destroyed immediately, or getting my HP smacked about while I can't do a thing about it.

Blek.

And after I invested so much Electrum in this deck. = n =;

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Re: Honestly disgusting. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64415.msg1262649#msg1262649
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2017, 02:33:20 am »
What deck did you purchase, out of interest? The irritating thing about gold, plat, and FGs are that you need specific decks in order to grind them effectively, although it's a lot more lenient in gold.

The two deck choices generally considered to be valid for gold/plat grinding are Pdials and Swallow. With FGs, you have some other decks such as voodoo bravery, and with gold, you can bring an assortment of decks provided they're extremely well constructed and partial stalls.

To counteract AI stupidity, harder AIs have artificially inflated stats. This makes facing them with decks that aren't at least partial stalls difficult. With FGs and Plat, it's practically impossible, but there has been some success with gold rushes such as chaos wyrms and SoBra monoair.

TL;DR welcome to the grindtown I hope you can survive it

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Re: Honestly disgusting. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64415.msg1262650#msg1262650
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2017, 03:59:26 am »
What deck did you purchase, out of interest? The irritating thing about gold, plat, and FGs are that you need specific decks in order to grind them effectively, although it's a lot more lenient in gold.

The two deck choices generally considered to be valid for gold/plat grinding are Pdials and Swallow. With FGs, you have some other decks such as voodoo bravery, and with gold, you can bring an assortment of decks provided they're extremely well constructed and partial stalls.

To counteract AI stupidity, harder AIs have artificially inflated stats. This makes facing them with decks that aren't at least partial stalls difficult. With FGs and Plat, it's practically impossible, but there has been some success with gold rushes such as chaos wyrms and SoBra monoair.

TL;DR welcome to the grindtown I hope you can survive it

Grindtown began a week ago when I found out that getting a streak in Silver gave me a chance to get Shards, man. But yeah, I was being dumb and was using an inferiour version of SoB air rush. (I didn't have damselflies)

It's still rough, even with Damselflies, but moderately easier to get rolling.

I also went for that deck because I didn't have enough SoFoc or SoSac to make PDials or Swallow.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2017, 04:07:31 am by Zen_Ineth »

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Re: Honestly disgusting. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64415.msg1262651#msg1262651
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2017, 04:27:08 am »
Gold and plat are supposed to be rough; against FGs, you have about a 60% winrate with the best decks, and plat is harder than FGs.

Blame bad AI needing this restriction q.q

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Re: Honestly disgusting. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64415.msg1262652#msg1262652
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2017, 05:34:42 am »
A rush deck remains the most profitable against Gold because of electrum/score per hour over a slightly higher winrate. Because you finish games many times faster, you'll both win more upgraded cards and get more base electrum/score. If your SoB rush is fully upped, it's the one that has tested the best against Gold of all known decks. However, it's not necessarily easy to play. Additionally, Arena changes periodically so it may be that a more resilient rush can achieve a better SSPH (special spins per hour), but that's likely to be temporary.

If you wanna make an alternate deck that wins more but slower, go ahead. There's no advantage unless you really hate losing and don't mind being poorer.
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