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Re: Forum FAQ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6459.msg1216666#msg1216666
« Reply #108 on: November 30, 2015, 09:54:02 am »
You can find previous versions of the Brawl Rules in the Archive found here. If you want to see how Brawl functioned in its first iteration you can click here, however do keep in mind that the rules have changed over time and we'll almost certainly be seeing a revamped rules page for Brawl V.

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Re: Forum FAQ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6459.msg1274061#msg1274061
« Reply #109 on: January 28, 2018, 10:43:06 am »
Hi all, the life forum banner is much, much smaller than the air one was, and checking the original image it's certainly in a larger resolution than displayed.
Could it be enlarged?
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Re: Forum FAQ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6459.msg1274799#msg1274799
« Reply #110 on: February 27, 2018, 10:35:15 pm »
If I crop the image so that the extra blank space on the sides is gone, it gets bigger. Thoughts? (I'm open to someone else doing a better crop job and sending me the file. I just did it real quick without much thought. I think I cut off some of the "shine" or whatever on the sides.)

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Re: Forum FAQ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6459.msg1274806#msg1274806
« Reply #111 on: February 28, 2018, 03:53:56 pm »
its awesome, im very good with that! THX!
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Re: Forum FAQ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6459.msg1277058#msg1277058
« Reply #112 on: May 30, 2018, 12:44:48 pm »
Has anyone considered moving the community forums to a free and comfy subreddit? Could have a lot of benefits in doing so.
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Re: Forum FAQ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6459.msg1277059#msg1277059
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Re: Forum FAQ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6459.msg1277063#msg1277063
« Reply #114 on: May 30, 2018, 04:53:39 pm »
what

Not paying money for hosting this forum, not having to maintain it, more uptime, possibly introducing the game to more people instead waiting to die here like we are doing now? I am confused by your confusion.
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Re: Forum FAQ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6459.msg1277064#msg1277064
« Reply #115 on: May 30, 2018, 05:03:01 pm »
Also, It could be considered to move Elements chat & War / Pvp events / tourneys to discord.
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Re: Forum FAQ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6459.msg1277065#msg1277065
« Reply #116 on: May 30, 2018, 05:48:14 pm »
A subreddit would make a great substitute for a forum, assuming that forum has only one board. This forum has many, many boards.

Take Brawl for example. You've got announcement posts, round posts, voting posts, and then you also need a dedicated thread for each team to work with. Multiply that by Trials, War, competitions, every other pvp event, and literally every other board on the forum

Then there's the fact that reddit doesn't allow you to have any user identity beyond your username and your flair - we have profile pictures, staff ranks, post counts, awards, all that stuff gets wiped away

And then you've got reddit markdown vs bbcode - biggest difference here being that reddit natively doesn't allow images in posts, which would break a good many things. And then you've got users who use RES, which would mean that they *do* see images, but only on an inline-block level so the whole image formatting thing just goes to dirt

And then you've got that reddit only has two permission tiers: moderator and non-moderator. Regular users have no control over anything and mods have complete authority. And there's no way to post outside of the main flow of the subreddit ie no secret planning for events or newsletters or anything

And then the more "important" stuff just gets chucked into that main flow as well and lost in a day. How do newsletters, staff hiring threads, forum game signups etc expect to have any visibility beyond a day if there's a throng of new posts above them competing for your attention? What would we do when we need more than 2 sticky posts?

And then there's no notifications or anything, sure you can get reddit PMs but you won't get notified by email if you receive one. What if someone needs your attention for something? Hell, how do you know if someone's replied to a thread that you've posted in? sure, there's /r/whatever/comments, but that's like scrolling through a list of every comment made when it's so much easier to go to /unread and see a list of all the threads that have been posted in since the last time you visited.

And then there's all the old posts. What happens to the old site when we move? What happens to the hundreds, possibly thousands of card design ideas? Do they get deleted, do we bring them with us? Will the first 805688 posts on the subreddit (number of posts on forum at time of this message) just be duplicates of old threads by a bot? Do we just have the old site as a backup database? If so, why even move in the first place?

What about the more wiki-like stuff? The whole subforum on cards, with a board for each element, with a thread for each card? Do they just get thrown into the unending list of posts as well? How would you ever know when someone has asked a question about a card without religiously trawling /comments?

And then at the end of the day - and this argument is a bit extreme - but we'd always be living in the shadow of the reddit admins, who have been known to just flat-out ban subreddits when it reflects poorly on them (though that's never happen to us). And then you've got users being flagged as bots - for example, someone who's making a lot of very similar posts to update a Mafia each round - and they get shadowbanned, and their posts can't be seen by anyone but they don't even know because no one can contact them to tell them about it and they can't ask anyone for help because no one can see their messages. And our own admins (moderators, now) wouldn't be able to do anything about it

In summary: what benefits?

I'm honestly curious to know what benefits you see from moving to a subreddit (other than it being free). If you really do have valid reasons, or more ideas, council is currently trying to make improvements to its Communications Manager role so if you have things to suggest about that we'd love to hear them so we can get a hiring thread back up for that and have more than one applicant

You're right about discord, though, elements chat has -unofficially- for the most part moved to discord, I don't know whether or not you're already on it but the link is here https://discord.gg/qAmfB8T, I expect a more official transition will be happening at some point soontm

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Re: Forum FAQ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6459.msg1277068#msg1277068
« Reply #117 on: May 30, 2018, 08:03:48 pm »
https://www.reddit.com/r/ElementsTheGame/

Technically, it already exists, and could be a good fallback point if we have to move. It's clearly inferior to what we have now, though.
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Re: Forum FAQ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6459.msg1277069#msg1277069
« Reply #118 on: May 30, 2018, 08:32:37 pm »
Okay CleanOnion. Tho I'm not sure why you are being so edgy and worked up. It's not like I have threatened the world with nuclear warheads.
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Re: Forum FAQ https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6459.msg1277078#msg1277078
« Reply #119 on: May 31, 2018, 11:08:43 pm »
Wiki stuff goes in sidebar, hiring is a sticky, PvP events being in discord & having a 2nd sticky thread for PvP events works, usually we only want one big PvP event at a time

Not saying I don't see value in having forum, just that it's not outrageous to suggest reddit as a good community platform. Part of the issue of having all posts & a bunch of useless boards is that it's a bit harder for new comers to see what's happening now

Honestly can make wiki links on sidebar lead to forum & then have sticky posts to current events. But now we're having users using 3 different platforms potentially (reddit, discord, forum). Better to first have forum move off SMF & to some nicer thing that has OAuth

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