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Please stop giving wrong advice: https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32036.msg404742#msg404742
« on: October 05, 2011, 05:51:25 pm »
Hi I was playing a rol/hope deck.. and heard that ai only uses miracle if below 20 hp.. or if you would kill it the next turn.


HOWEVER, now I had divine glory down to 47(!) hp..

And it uses miracle, in field I had 2 * unupgraded light dragon + 10 ray of lights. - 30 dmg in total.

So what is now the actual trigger for the ai to play miracle?

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Re: Please stop giving wrong advice: https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32036.msg404743#msg404743
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2011, 05:52:38 pm »
It's based on the amount of green health left, not green and yellow.

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Re: Please stop giving wrong advice: https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32036.msg404753#msg404753
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2011, 06:13:24 pm »
Hi I was playing a rol/hope deck.. and heard that ai only uses miracle if below 20 hp.. or if you would kill it the next turn.


HOWEVER, now I had divine glory down to 47(!) hp..

And it uses miracle, in field I had 2 * unupgraded light dragon + 10 ray of lights. - 30 dmg in total.

So what is now the actual trigger for the ai to play miracle?
last i checked, AI uses miracle if its health is less than your damage on the board +30.
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Re: Please stop giving wrong advice: https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32036.msg404783#msg404783
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2011, 07:16:55 pm »
Hi I was playing a rol/hope deck.. and heard that ai only uses miracle if below 20 hp.. or if you would kill it the next turn.


HOWEVER, now I had divine glory down to 47(!) hp..

And it uses miracle, in field I had 2 * unupgraded light dragon + 10 ray of lights. - 30 dmg in total.

So what is now the actual trigger for the ai to play miracle?
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Re: Please stop giving wrong advice: https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32036.msg404786#msg404786
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2011, 07:20:32 pm »
i saw him also casting it with more than 50 hp.
AI is more smart when casting miracle since version 1.26.Before that patch miracle was quite easy to beat with right timing and a good rol/hope.
I don't know the trigger condition.

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Re: Please stop giving wrong advice: https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32036.msg404843#msg404843
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2011, 08:33:39 pm »
So 25HP ? 30 HP more ? there was a time it was 12.. and now ? someone is SURE ?
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Re: Please stop giving wrong advice: https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32036.msg404853#msg404853
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2011, 08:45:59 pm »
I make my calculations based off of 30. But it did work with 27 once so I suppose 25 could be the correct number. I also heard it's dynamic / random / whatever. I don't know, and I doubt anybody can be really sure of it...
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Re: Please stop giving wrong advice: https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32036.msg404918#msg404918
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2011, 10:22:57 pm »
Psh. You're raging over one game? Seriously, change the title of this thread >.>
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Chances are, even "right" advice will be misinterpreted, and it was possible (as omegareaper7 already suggested) that the person was talking about how to layer your damage with Liquid Antimatter.

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Re: Please stop giving wrong advice: https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32036.msg404922#msg404922
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2011, 10:27:56 pm »
There is a random element to whether the AI will take an action. So it might think about playing Miracle at a certain point and "decide" against it.
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Re: Please stop giving wrong advice: https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32036.msg404944#msg404944
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2011, 10:46:52 pm »
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I remember, that I have read the same thing. I have searched for a post to confirm it and I don´t know where I have read it. Anyone here, who knows the source ?
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Re: Please stop giving wrong advice: https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32036.msg404946#msg404946
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2011, 10:50:16 pm »
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I remember, that I have read the same thing. I have searched for a post to confirm it and I don´t know where I have read it. Anyone here, who knows the source ?
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Re: Please stop giving wrong advice: https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32036.msg405024#msg405024
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2011, 12:41:22 am »
Alright, I've looked through the actual, current game source and found the magic equation. It casts Miracle when:

Current health - damage monitor < 10 + (random number between 0 and 1)*12

0 is inclusive, 1 is not.

In other words, it may cast it when current health - damage monitor is anywhere from 11 to 21.

Current health - damage monitor could even be 10 without it casting, but this is very, VERY unlikely.
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