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PuppyChow

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Re: Finally had enough https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2834.msg23869#msg23869
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2010, 06:39:48 am »
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"ivalmian's deck sucks ass  worse that an 'only pillar deck' but I win 50%+ with puppy"
Agreed :P.

All jokes aside, both of our decks get similar winning %s, and with the latest statistics I've had a 63-67 winning % (can't remember which it is off the top of my head, but I think 63). But I've been getting pretty good draws so it's still probably in the 50s, and the sample size is relatively small (about 40, if I remember right). I should take some with 1.19 even though FGs haven't been altered with it. Ivalimians does similarly well.

If you're getting under 50 with either of them, you're either getting VERY unlucky, or you're doing something wrong.

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Re: Finally had enough https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2834.msg23870#msg23870
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2010, 08:50:33 am »
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If you say:
 "ivalmian's deck sucks ass  worse that an 'only pillar deck' but I win 50%+ with puppy"
I'd accept that.. but to say BOTH decks don't work is a little silly :P

It's your strategy that doesn't work...
Wow, defensive much? I suggest you reread what I said. Please note the complete lack of my claiming that your deck doesn't work.

I have, the win rate with your deck is lower than what I get with mine. It could just be random sampling variation but of the ~30 games I played with your deck I only won 8.

Also it's still an Eternity/Oty deck so there isn't much incentive to change.
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I do win more than 50% with the deck I use but it's boring as hell using the same deck over and over.

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Re: Finally had enough https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2834.msg24003#msg24003
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2010, 07:12:34 pm »
Wow, defensive much? I suggest you reread what I said. Please note the complete lack of my claiming that your deck doesn't work.

<3 , not  >:(

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Scaredgirl

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Re: Finally had enough https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2834.msg24015#msg24015
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2010, 07:42:09 pm »
It took me 2 days just to grind enough for one upgraded card.

Um.. what?! :)

May I suggest you change your deck or your strategy?
Sorry. It's just that we can't all be as cool as you.
The original poster said he's been playing the game for 6 months, yet it takes him two days to get one upgraded card. That is simply not possible unless he has a horrible performing deck or uses the wrong strategy.

Of course "two days" can mean a lot of things. If he only plays 1 hour per day, then I guess it makes more sense. But if that were the case, saying "2 hours" would be much better than saying "two days".

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Re: Finally had enough https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2834.msg24017#msg24017
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2010, 07:46:01 pm »
It took me 2 days just to grind enough for one upgraded card.

Um.. what?! :)

May I suggest you change your deck or your strategy?
Sorry. It's just that we can't all be as cool as you.
The original poster said he's been playing the game for 6 months, yet it takes him two days to get one upgraded card. That is simply not possible unless he has a horrible performing deck or uses the wrong strategy.

Of course "two days" can mean a lot of things. If he only plays 1 hour per day, then I guess it makes more sense. But if that were the case, saying "2 hours" would be much better than saying "two days".

yeah.. especially since now there is AI 5 which is good for grinding... um.. and I say 2 cards/hour is I think what a good deck gets with fake god grinding, so if you play little (say an hour a day), then getting one upped card per 2 days without fg grinding is reasonable!

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Re: Finally had enough https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2834.msg24084#msg24084
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2010, 10:46:30 pm »
This is an incredible number of posts over one player who threatened to quit he hadn't won an Eternity yet.  Maybe this is oversimplifying a bit, but maybe not.
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Re: Finally had enough https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2834.msg24093#msg24093
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2010, 11:11:41 pm »
This is an incredible number of posts over one player who threatened to quit he hadn't won an Eternity yet.  Maybe this is oversimplifying a bit, but maybe not.
E-suicide threads are always popular because of all the drama and comedy. :)

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Re: Finally had enough https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2834.msg24097#msg24097
« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2010, 11:18:48 pm »
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Jmizzle would you kindly point to the deck that can farm FG's with a decent win percentage that doesn't require an eternity?
Go to Rainbow Decks.  Look at PuppyChow's deck.  Remove 1 Eternity.  Add 2 Quantum Towers and 2 Electrum Hourglasses.

That's the exact deck I've been using for weeks now, and I have a 54% overall win rate.  Against FG's that's QUITE profitable.   Sure, I deck out like one out of 12 games...but I don't care.


Also, what coinich said about AI5.  AI5 is pretty durn easy to beat with a decent speed deck, and even though you only win an upgraded card about 4% of your victories (25% of the time to win a spun card, 15% of those are upgraded, roughly), you can still win 25 games (statistically enough to win an upgraded card) in about an hour if you play quickly. 

It's not nearly the profitability of FG farming, but it's MUCH better than AI3, and makes a good way to build to SG's mostly-unupgraded FG deck. 

If something happens and you think it deserves my attention, feel free to PM me. Other than that, I'm probably here if you want to shoot the breeze.

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Re: Finally had enough https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2834.msg24339#msg24339
« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2010, 07:44:15 pm »
Just to clarify things for people who seem intent on jumping the gun and replying without reading everything. I'm not new here, I have my original account with 3 fully up'd decks, around 6 months old. I simply started a new account due to being unable to win the eternity I needed. So in comparison to when grinding a new account 6 months ago to grinding a new one a week ago. The differences in winning cards for money were HUGE.

If you read my posts you would know this. Please stop being ignorant and jumping to conclusions half way through reading the thread. And thanks to those with intelligent well thought out answers geared toward helping the situation and not simply trying to start an argument for the sake of it.

Also to those saying you don't need an eternity in the decks you use. how bout posting a SS of your deck. I'd love to hear your ideas.

valuka

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Re: Finally had enough https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2834.msg24355#msg24355
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2010, 08:31:06 pm »
I think that Eternity is not a must against FG-s. Sometimes is a must against Miracle, Rainbow and Divine Glory, and very usefull against Elindnis, Graviton, Gemini and Hermes, but without it many FG-s can beat. For my deck sure, i use different deck as deck called here "Rainbow".

Scaredgirl

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Re: Finally had enough https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2834.msg24360#msg24360
« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2010, 08:41:54 pm »
So, I must regretfully say bye

Murs
Also to those saying you don't need an eternity in the decks you use. how bout posting a SS of your deck. I'd love to hear your ideas.
Um.. I thought you "had enough" and left already? Or was this one of those "cry-for-help" e-suicides? :)

You know if you only need help with decks, there are less dramatic ways of doing it. Like starting a regular thread, asking for non-Eternity False Gods decks.

There are other options then Eternity. What weapons do you have? Do you have a Pulverizer?

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Re: Finally had enough https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2834.msg24369#msg24369
« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2010, 09:27:17 pm »
I can't seem to get a freaking eternity either.  Been playing for about 3weeks now.  Over 600games played.  Not one eternity won.  BUT..i do perfectly fine vs FG's with my deck(even before a lot of these upgraded cards)
Here's my deck if you're interested. (Basically a modified version of "ScaredGirl's un-upped FG killer".

(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/view/m7Gbd44913/deck1)

I usually just leave vs Rainbow..waste of time.  Seism I leave if i don't get enchant quickly.  Scorp depends on what poison he draws first.  But most other Gods if I don't get a terrible draw(and a couple if i do) I win about 60%.  And if you lose...you lose fast.

 

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