Finally had enough

[jmizzle7]

I dunno, I guess I'm just more patient than most, but it only took me about a week or so to upgrade my first deck, and that is with the old bazaar sell-back prices which were much lower than they are now. I did level 3 mostly, with some top 50 in there. There were very few rainbow decks and rare farms in the top 50 back then, but even then, I found I could upgrade a card every 1.5-2 hours from grinding level 3.

The learning curve inherent to rainbow deck play and the false gods is steeper than it once was, but it's still a fair challenge with a good reward. The false gods are still by far the best for farming, even if you don't win over 80% of your games. Even if you throw a rainbow deck that vaguely resembles a traditional false god farmer, you'll win at least 50% of your games if it is upped.

[Murdoch]

I can only assume I have beenr ediculousy lucky over several days.

But I will say this. grinding AI3 as a new account 6 months ago vs 2 days ago. There is a BIG difference in money making, but again I may have just been very super unlucky.

It took me 2 days just to grind enough for one upgraded card.

However a huge thanks to jmizzle and puppy who have set up eternity farms.

Again just luck I guess? For 3 days I asked and got none. 2 minutes and both of you have set up farms for me.

[Scaredgirl]

It took me 2 days just to grind enough for one upgraded card.

Um.. what?!

May I suggest you change your deck or your strategy?

[Murdoch]

I was around 70-5 win/loss and with a 30 card time speed deck. matches were fast enough. just the spin win rate was atrocious.

[yendorii]

And to answer yendorii, Take Aflatoxin instead of Oty, and use a bigger deck instead of eternity. Maybe take an extra firestorm and a firebuckler then. But I agree that mono-duo do need some kind of boost so they can stand a better chance against FGs.

To be fair I run a 60 card deck with eternity. I'd love to find a small fast FG farming deck that didn't require this but I have yet to find one that works. Ivalmain's speed deck has an atrocious win rate when I use it. I know someone will suspect I just don't know how to play the deck but I would be surprised if that were the case. I do win more than 50% with the deck I use but it's boring as hell using the same deck over and over.

[Jumbalumba]

yendorii: It's not only about win rate. You could have a terrible win rate but a deck that leads to quick games and result in a better outcome. Or you could have a 100% win rate (not really possible I know) but have each game take 20 minutes or something. You can see how win rate isn't the be all and end all.

[PuppyChow]

Or you could try my deck >_>.

[yendorii]

Or you could try my deck >_>.

I have, the win rate with your deck is lower than what I get with mine. It could just be random sampling variation but of the ~30 games I played with your deck I only won 8.

Also it's still an Eternity/Oty deck so there isn't much incentive to change.

[Cisco]

You DON`T need an eternity. I don´t use it because it´s a waste of space imo. My deck gives you a winrate of 60%+ as does pupps , Ival and jmizzles etc. I´ts how you play the FG. If your winrate is  like under 50% you are doing something wrong.
If you need to leave because you think such bull......... . There are many other games out there have fun.

[coinich]

Just to tack onto this, I'm having a fine time trudging along on AI5.  My deck works just fine with or without upgraded cards (though certainly is more effective with) and since I've originally started playing a few months ago, I've managed to upgrade ~11 cards.  Yeah, compared to most I have a fairly sucky w/l record (7:5) but I'm here for the game and thrill, not the grind.  My solution is to simply not do that, and face other challenges.

[harakirinosaru]

I would like to also say that you have gone about this wrong. You should begin addressing your concerns with the issue as a suggestion rather than an ultimatum.

What ultimatum? He didn't ask anyone to change anything. He just said 'peace'.

It took me 2 days just to grind enough for one upgraded card.

Um.. what?!

May I suggest you change your deck or your strategy?

Sorry. It's just that we can't all be as cool as you.

[ivalmian]

 Murdoch : grind AI 5... you get upped cards from them and there are plenty of unupped decks that have good win rate...

Or you could try my deck >_>.

I have, the win rate with your deck is lower than what I get with mine. It could just be random sampling variation but of the ~30 games I played with your deck I only won 8.

Also it's still an Eternity/Oty deck so there isn't much incentive to change.

If both our decks fail for you then I dare suggest the problem is with you.. not with our decks..

For my decks, both jangoo and vreely got 56 and 59% success rates against all gods respective (more than my original claim of 55%)... which make combined ~300 games saying the deck works with > 55% rate (vreely variant has 150+ games saying 59%).

With Puppy he also had like 3 people who give his deck >50% win rate, and his own recent version says about 60% (although I guess with small sample size).


If you say:
 "ivalmian's deck sucks ass  worse that an 'only pillar deck' but I win 50%+ with puppy"
I'd accept that.. but to say BOTH decks don't work is a little silly

It's your strategy that doesn't work...