FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths

[Genuinous]

Done with 200 games. I'll upload tmr. Done
Just wondering. Which one should I do next?

deck	CCYB Slim
players	Genuinous

version	1.27		win-rate	47.5%
$ track ?	enabled		win-rate (n)	49.58%
games	200		Score/h	457
win-loss-(EM)	95-105-(12)		Score/h (n)	494
time (h:m:s)	11:15:15		FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	3663
min/game	03:23		FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	3792

      Statmasta™4000                                                                *assumed card-spin/win: 35%      

score/h	FGei(c)	Statmasta™4000	wins	losses	skips	EM/Wins
-334    409    -167    1106    801    -947    25    354    28    770    52    368    273    1284       -1090    1101    -665    486    1149    858    1281    146    949    607    817    -776    -282    762    785	1487    3678    1367    5393    4569    -947    2004    3763    2651    5255    1813    3511    2975    7007       -1090    5654    -665    3189    6355    4874    6692    3091    5480    3689    4867    -776    1515    4361    6407	Akebono Chaos Lord Dark Matter Decay Destiny Divine Glory Dream Catcher Elidnis Eternal Phoenix Ferox Fire Queen Gemini Graviton Hecate Hermes Incarnate Jezebel Lionheart Miracle Morte Neptune Obliterator Octane Osiris Paradox Rainbow Scorpio Seism Serket	1    2    1    5    6     0    3    2    2    4    2    3    2    6    0    4    0    5    4    2    7    3    5    5    8    0    2    7    4	5     2     4     0     2      7     6     3     5     3     5     3     3     1     7     0     4     3     0     1     0     4     1     2     2     5     9     3     4	1            2                                2        3                    2                1	3      1                                                      1            1            1            1      1                  1                        2

Excel File (https://rapidshare.com/files/3127504419/Statmasta4000.xls)

Note: Reason for skips
Lockdown: Dream Catcher, Rainbow, Decay, Jezebel
PAd Fire Buckler: Hermes
PAd Pulvy + overrun: Obliterator

Note: Akebono is easier, but in none of the 5 losses could I play a shield...

Note: I EMd Rainbow and beat Hermes twice on a different computer and couldn't record the data.

[kirchj33]

deck	Fire Lance Sudden Killer
players	kirchj33

version	1.27		win-rate	17.5%
$ track ?	enabled		win-rate (n)	17.02%
games	160		Score/h	-263
win-loss-(EM)	28-132-(0)		Score/h (n)	-274
time (h:m:s)	07:25:52		FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	1154
min/game	02:47		FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	1106

      Statmasta™4000                                                                *assumed card-spin/win: 35%      
      

"

score/h	FGei(c)	Statmasta™4000	wins	losses	skips	EM/Wins
-1912    -638    -2227    -830    83    -970    -1703    -480    -938    49    42    147    -1313    -709       -1089    624    -673    536    192    -2368    492    -1978    -1265    -445    125    -679    -1666    -894    -9	-1912    -638    -2227    -830    2159    -970    -1703    -480    -938    2078    1639    2022    -1313    -709       -1089    4125    -673    3301    3024    -2368    4290    -1978    -1265    -445    2258    -679    -1666    -894    2217	Akebono Chaos Lord Dark Matter Decay Destiny Divine Glory Dream Catcher Elidnis Eternal Phoenix Ferox Fire Queen Gemini Graviton Hecate Hermes Incarnate Jezebel Lionheart Miracle Morte Neptune Obliterator Octane Osiris Paradox Rainbow Scorpio Seism Serket	1                     2    1    2                7        5    2        3                3                2	4     10     4     6     2      3     5     6     6     4     2     3     12     3     7     1     5         3     5     2     5     5     5     5     4     6     4     5

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Excel File: Fire Lance Sudden Killer (https://rapidshare.com/files/462899258/Statmasta4000_-_Fire_Lance_Sudden_Killer.xls)

[kirchj33]

Done with 200 games. I'll upload tmr.
Just wondering. Which one should I do next?

I think we've got testers on every deck now except Scaredgirl's partially unupped deck, liquid antimatter, or eternal chaos.  Whichever you would like would be great though.  Ideally, we'd like 1k games on each deck completed.

[Genuinous]

Done with 200 games. I'll upload tmr.
Just wondering. Which one should I do next?

I think we've got testers on every deck now except Scaredgirl's partially unupped deck, liquid antimatter, or eternal chaos.  Whichever you would like would be great though.  Ideally, we'd like 1k games on each deck completed.

I'm lacking upgrades for eternal chaos, so I'll do SG's partially upped deck.
Just an idea: personally I'd rather do 200 games with 5 different decks, than 1000 with 1. I don't know about others

[kirchj33]

Just an idea: personally I'd rather do 200 games with 5 different decks, than 1000 with 1. I don't know about others

Yep.  That's one of the main ideas of having several testers.  Grinding a couple hundred games is difficult enough for one person.  If we can all pitch in, we should be able to get 1000+ games on each deck and draw some great comparisons.

[twixy10]

What is the policy on pet's?

I would guess don't count the games with pets as help.

[Genuinous]

What is the policy on pet's?

I would guess don't count the games with pets as help.

I didn't count pets. Sometimes they make a difference. Extra attack or just draw out CC.

[kirchj33]

What is the policy on pet's?

I would guess don't count the games with pets as help.

Yeah.  Pets are a no-go, so just think of fun, creative uses for them while you are waiting for them to go away.

[zse]

Voodoo Panic (modded)
200 games:
90 wins, 104 losses, 6 skips (Decay is totally impossible), 7 EMs
Time (win, h:min) 5:53
Time (loss, h:min) 5:43
49 cards won

win rate 90/200 = 45%
normalized win rate  = 48,3%

Average turn to win: 10,4
Average turn to lose: 8,9
Average time on games won: 235
Average time on games lost: 198 (non-skipped)
Average time on games skipped: 21
min:sec /game: 3:29 (slow laptop)

FG	w	l	w%
akebono	3	3	50,00%
chaos l	3	7	30,00%
dark m	0	11	0,00%
decay	0	6	0,00%
destiny	1	6	14,29%
div glo	3	7	30,00%
dream c	2	2	50,00%
elidnis	6	1	85,71%
eternal	2	4	33,33%
ferox	5	1	83,33%
fire q	1	5	16,67%
gemini	3	6	33,33%
gravit	3	4	42,86%
hecate	2	3	40,00%
hermes	3	3	50,00%
incarn	6	0	100,00%
jezebel	4	4	50,00%
lionh	2	1	66,67%
miracle	3	2	60,00%
morte	6	2	75,00%
neptune	5	0	100,00%
oblit	8	5	61,54%
octane	1	7	12,50%
osiris	1	8	11,11%
paradox	6	2	75,00%
rainbow	3	5	37,50%
scorpio	4	3	57,14%
seism	1	2	33,33%
serket	3	0	100,00%

[kirchj33]

Voodoo Panic (modded)
200 games:
90 wins, 104 losses, 6 skips (Decay is totally impossible), 7 EMs
Time (win, h:min) 5:53
Time (loss, h:min) 5:43
49 cards won

win rate 90/200 = 45%
normalized win rate  = 48,3%

Average turn to win: 10,4
Average turn to lose: 8,9
Average time on games won: 235
Average time on games lost: 198 (non-skipped)
Average time on games skipped: 21
min:sec /game: 3:29 (slow laptop)

FG	w	l	w%
akebono	3	3	50,00%
chaos l	3	7	30,00%
dark m	0	11	0,00%
decay	0	6	0,00%
destiny	1	6	14,29%
div glo	3	7	30,00%
dream c	2	2	50,00%
elidnis	6	1	85,71%
eternal	2	4	33,33%
ferox	5	1	83,33%
fire q	1	5	16,67%
gemini	3	6	33,33%
gravit	3	4	42,86%
hecate	2	3	40,00%
hermes	3	3	50,00%
incarn	6	0	100,00%
jezebel	4	4	50,00%
lionh	2	1	66,67%
miracle	3	2	60,00%
morte	6	2	75,00%
neptune	5	0	100,00%
oblit	8	5	61,54%
octane	1	7	12,50%
osiris	1	8	11,11%
paradox	6	2	75,00%
rainbow	3	5	37,50%
scorpio	4	3	57,14%
seism	1	2	33,33%
serket	3	0	100,00%

No STATMASTA zse?

[Jangoo]

No STATMASTA zse?

Still on it ... sorry, been busy with loads of RL-stuff those past days.

I will send a link to an already working (but not yet pretty) OO-version to zse and YoundSot tomorrow.

If you would like to participate in the study but don't have MS-Excel, send me a pm to get the link.

Cheers

[CCCombobreaker]

Can anyone test: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23368.0.html
or should I just do it and post results?