FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths

[gumbeh]

Skip-stats!

Noms. I have arranged an admin for my spreadsheet while i'm gone, so i hope it will eventually give you more accurate data for specefic god stats.
Also, excellent work.

Yeah ... I was looking at that yesterday and at first I didn't really get it for its labeled a bit weird.

Could you perhaps install a cell for each god that displays the sum of all card-wins or better yet:

A percentage adhering to the formula:  cards won/games played x 100% = card-spin-rate    ??

Would be really nice to be able to compare the data from this study with it by just taking a glance at some numbers ... 

Epic!

I am so totally super duper excited. This has been a long-awaited climax to all our furious FG pumping and stroking!

If you think about it for a minute, you can almost close your eyes and visualize the dizzying array of data being parsed, sorted, averaged... and HARVESTED. It's like scenes from A Beautiful Mind, but spreadsheet-powered.

[TheCrazyMango]

could somebody test this deck if its not too much trouble? I.ve always wanted to see just how good semi-upped rol/hope is
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14533.msg418479#msg418479
Please and (hopefully) thank you.

[Jangoo]

I am so totally super duper excited. This has been a long-awaited climax to all our furious FG pumping and stroking!

Yeah, me too. This is awesome ... thanks for putting in all the work guys!

If you think about it for a minute, you can almost close your eyes and visualize the dizzying array of data being parsed, sorted, averaged... and HARVESTED. It's like scenes from A Beautiful Mind, but spreadsheet-powered.

Tried it ... doesn't work.

 

could somebody test this deck if its not too much trouble? I.ve always wanted to see just how good semi-upped rol/hope is
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14533.msg418479#msg418479
Please and (hopefully) thank you.

Anybody who has ever posted test-requests in this thread:

You do know that you can simply download the STATMASTA, test a specific deck with it
and it will be just as awesome a data-sample as if somebody else had played those matches for you?

Y'all do know that ... .... right?

[gumbeh]

Anybody who has ever posted test-requests in this thread:

You do know that you can simply download the STATMASTA, test a specific deck with it
and it will be just as awesome a data-sample as if somebody else had played those matches for you?

Y'all do know that ... .... right?

I think most folks whimper and go home any time they try to read through the OPs and instruction manuals. I'm not sure what could be done about that... maybe a large sized, bright colored, bold FAQ at the beginning with only the barest essential information that a non-tester would be interested in?

Also, 200th post.

[Vendanna]

Did anyone tried the upped firestall? I didn't saw it on the list and it may give good results, it was funny to kill some false gods with it and I tought it was an old classic deck but I didn't saw any stats for it on this thread.

Thanks for your time

[n00b]

Did anyone tried the upped firestall? I didn't saw it on the list and it may give good results, it was funny to kill some false gods with it and I tought it was an old classic deck but I didn't saw any stats for it on this thread.

Thanks for your time

That deck is not to be spoken of here... we shun it

[Jenkar]

I've tried it a bit. Can make for fun play, but not competitive imo.

[omegareaper7]

Did anyone tried the upped firestall? I didn't saw it on the list and it may give good results, it was funny to kill some false gods with it and I tought it was an old classic deck but I didn't saw any stats for it on this thread.

Thanks for your time

I have, 50 games got a 30% win rate, there are way better decks if you want to grind false gods.

[coldfusion]

This is most interesting. I must admit I tend to enter Elements hibernation for months and spuradically return to find I need to relearn all the strategies due to new cards/fgs. However looking at the extremely thoroughly performed tests there is a clear front runner for best farming deck. I've always used huge oty decks which worked well in the old days but not so well vs the newer fgs. While massing electrum is important, I prefer slow decks with extremely high percentage chance for victory (preferably EM). Thanks guys for performing in this study

[gumbeh]

This is most interesting. I must admit I tend to enter Elements hibernation for months and spuradically return to find I need to relearn all the strategies due to new cards/fgs. However looking at the extremely thoroughly performed tests there is a clear front runner for best farming deck. I've always used huge oty decks which worked well in the old days but not so well vs the newer fgs. While massing electrum is important, I prefer slow decks with extremely high percentage chance for victory (preferably EM). Thanks guys for performing in this study

The jury is still out regarding "best" deck, actually. The information available to us elucidates which decks perform best in a no-skips environment. If you factor skips, even some of the lower-end decks could rocket way ahead.

Imagine a deck so balanced that it makes 100  per hour vs all FGs. Now imagine a second deck that makes 300 gold per hour vs half of the FGs, but loses 100  per hour vs the other 50%. Deck 2 is a better deck for farming - by surrendering instantly to the unprofitable FGs, you spend most of your time making 300  per hour.

There is still a great deal of exciting news or shocking upsets to come in the FGei world!

[coldfusion]

This is most interesting. I must admit I tend to enter Elements hibernation for months and spuradically return to find I need to relearn all the strategies due to new cards/fgs. However looking at the extremely thoroughly performed tests there is a clear front runner for best farming deck. I've always used huge oty decks which worked well in the old days but not so well vs the newer fgs. While massing electrum is important, I prefer slow decks with extremely high percentage chance for victory (preferably EM). Thanks guys for performing in this study

The jury is still out regarding "best" deck, actually. The information available to us elucidates which decks perform best in a no-skips environment. If you factor skips, even some of the lower-end decks could rocket way ahead.

Imagine a deck so balanced that it makes 100  per hour vs all FGs. Now imagine a second deck that makes 300 gold per hour vs half of the FGs, but loses 100  per hour vs the other 50%. Deck 2 is a better deck for farming - by surrendering instantly to the unprofitable FGs, you spend most of your time making 300  per hour.

There is still a great deal of exciting news or shocking upsets to come in the FGei world!

Hmmm true but skipping is very bad for your score. Also, the only reason you would farm fgs is because of the upgraded cards spins. Your main source of income by a long long way will be from selling those upgraded cards so the relative gains from winning the game is very marginal.

I'd also like to add, building these decks costs an absolute fortune if you don't already have those cards lol

[Jangoo]

Hmmm true but skipping is very bad for your score. Also, the only reason you would farm fgs is because of the upgraded cards spins. Your main source of income by a long long way will be from selling those upgraded cards so the relative gains from winning the game is very marginal.

All this blends into the same index: FGei (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)

Gumbeh might as well have put it this way:

Imagine a deck so balanced that it wins against all FGs with an average gametime of 5 mins and a 50% win-rate. Now imagine a second deck that wins only vs half of the FGs with an average win-rate of 30%, but plays as fast as 2min a game. Deck 2 is a better deck for farming - by winning fast and losing even faster, you spend most of your time generating wins that will give you cards ... because cards are what make the electrum.
 

I'd also like to add, building these decks costs an absolute fortune if you don't already have those cards lol

The sole reason for this study.
If you are going to save up for a farming deck, you'd wanna know if it's worth it eh?