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False God Farming Help would be appreciated https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21836.msg280019#msg280019
« on: February 28, 2011, 12:32:25 am »
It's been a while since I've actually played Elements; I've spent a lot of time on the forums looking at new developments in the cards.  However, this does leave me with a predicament.  I'm still stuck where I left off.  I'm in that no man's land between FG farming and t50 farming.  I have a reasonably reliable, half-upgraded deck for t50 that has returned a decent amount of electrum for upgrading other cards.   However, I still don't know what cards I should upgrade to start farming the FGs.  My main problem is not knowing what kind of deck I should make.  Honestly, the last time I farmed FGs was before v1.15 or whenever the sundial nerf was put into effect.  I'd like to start getting back into the swing of things, but I don't know where to go.

Also, I'm not sure if PvP or FG farming would gain me the most electrum.  I apologize for being so long-winded, but here are my questions:

1. Which would be a better investment, PvP or FG farming?
2. Which deck or deck type should I attempt to create?

Thank you in advance for the assistance.  I'm sure that I speak for more than just myself when I say that it's a little difficult to step back into playing once you've left it for a while.

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Re: False God Farming Help would be appreciated https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21836.msg280028#msg280028
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2011, 12:45:22 am »
1. In the long run, FG's are probably the best for electrum but you'll need a fairly strong deck to make them really worthwhile.  T50 is good until then especially since you can get a lot of rares easily that way and then once you have 13+, you can start selling them for more electrum.
2.  CCYB is probably one of the best overall decks now(and also somewhat customizable to fit your play style.  RoL/Hope is probably the fastest FG deck and also a good one to start with there since only the RoL's absolutely need to be upgraded, however there are also a lot of FG's you probably won't be able to beat often and should just skip if you end up fighting them(some shards of gratitude will help allowing you to beat a few other FG's) and RoL/hope is also much weaker against many t50 decks or AI5(pretty much anything with good creature control is going to give you problems).  With the new update coming out soon, there will probably be some new decks and strategies coming out but still a bit soon to say what will be best with the new FG's and cards

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Re: False God Farming Help would be appreciated https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21836.msg280033#msg280033
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2011, 12:50:40 am »
It all depends of what you want. If you want coins, FG farming is the best option. If you want score, farm AI3's, if you want fun, go PvP, if you want rares, go T50, if you want AI5 to have a meaning, go AI5 :P

As I guess you want coins, I recommend you upgrade 6 Photons to Ray of Lights, and farm T50 until you have 3 Lobotomizers (the deck can work with 2, but 3 is optimal).
Then make any RoL/Hope variant.
Add 4-5 fractals, 9-12 Aether Pillars, 6 RoL's, 3-4 UNUPPED Hopes (I prefer 4), 2 Light Dragons/Upped Angels and up to 3 Shards of Gratitude if you have/want.

Here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14533.msg196950#msg196950)'s my post with the deck I propose and that stuff. Also, as the new version is coming out with new FGs, IDK how effective it will be against them. I could guess that 1-2 of them might be easy-ish.

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Re: False God Farming Help would be appreciated https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21836.msg280043#msg280043
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2011, 12:58:13 am »
What cards do you already have upgraded? If, for example, you have a lot of Quantum Pillars upgraded into Towers, then you might be better off going for an Anti-FG rainbow like CCYB. I know a lot of people recommend RoL + Hope because it is fairly fast and easy to use.

Also, PvP matches are pretty slow. It's not recommended if you're looking for a lot of electrum.

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Re: False God Farming Help would be appreciated https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21836.msg280071#msg280071
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2011, 01:39:24 am »
krathos, your deck is pretty awesome. i speak from experience.

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Re: False God Farming Help would be appreciated https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21836.msg280095#msg280095
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2011, 02:24:15 am »
Thank you all for your input.  I guess my ultimate goal would be to compete in PvP, but I can't really do that without a reliable method of gaining electrum quickly.  I'm assuming that FG farming would be the way to go.  I'm also assuming from Hodari and Krathos' posts that a CCYB or a RoL/Hope deck would be the way to go.  Interestingly enough, that RoL/Hope deck might make me a decent PvP deck because I have a Destroyer deck for my t50.  I have a little over 2600 :electrum.  These are my upgraded cards.   

7 Quantum Tower
1 Shard of Gratitude
6 Supernova
2 Fallen Druid
2 Upgraded Bone Wall
2 Elite Otyugh
2 Feral Bond
1 Jade Shield
1 Fire Storm
6 Cremation
6 Lava Destroyer
(both for my t50)
1 Permafrost Shield
2 Elite Queen
3 Electrum Hourglass
2 Upgraded Quintessence
If possible, can you tell me where I should proceed?

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Re: False God Farming Help would be appreciated https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21836.msg280105#msg280105
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2011, 02:31:38 am »
If possible, can you tell me where I should proceed?
I see you have most of the cards needed for CCYB (link to the deck here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,9545.0.html)), so I recommend you end upping that deck, and learn how to use it. It will help you learn a tad bit about the FG's,  and it grinds better than RoL/Hope semi-upped. But IMO RoL/Hope fully upped is the best FG farmer (electrum/time-wise talking), so you should upgrade it whenever you can.
BTW, here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11016.0.html)'s the link of the list of upgraded Fake God farmers. They're listed by popularity, not by efectiveness, but most of them are similarly effective, so trying is the best way to go :D

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Re: False God Farming Help would be appreciated https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21836.msg281301#msg281301
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2011, 12:35:47 am »
Thanks.  Will do.  Btw, how well do you think RoL/Hope decks will do against the new FGs in comparison to the CCYB variations?

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Re: False God Farming Help would be appreciated https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21836.msg281332#msg281332
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2011, 01:04:12 am »
Thanks.  Will do.  Btw, how well do you think RoL/Hope decks will do against the new FGs in comparison to the CCYB variations?
Never played against one of them yet (Real Life needs attention lastly), but I guess they won't alter the stats. 2 of them look medium/easy with RoL/Hope, and none of them seem impossible for CCYB.

To make it easier for you:
RoL/Hope beats CONSISTENTLY some of the gods, that -casually- have, on balance, "easier spins" (Divine Glory, Paradox). Also, most loses are quick, while longer matches mostly mean a win. That's why it's better for farming.
CCYB can defeat practically ANY god, but has an important chance to lose against ANY god with a bad draw (that are common), or by RNG hate (Permafrost not freezing, common bad draws). But it has more consistency in the win%, thus it's better for gaining score while farming FG's. Also, CCYB needs some level of knowledge of every god, as to play the right cards in the right order, but I guess you'll learn that pretty easily.
That's why the stats might mostly keep the same, so I'll keep using RoL/Hope.

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Re: False God Farming Help would be appreciated https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21836.msg281341#msg281341
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2011, 01:16:52 am »
What specific build would you suggest?

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Re: False God Farming Help would be appreciated https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21836.msg281445#msg281445
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2011, 03:32:00 am »
Thanks.  Will do.  Btw, how well do you think RoL/Hope decks will do against the new FGs in comparison to the CCYB variations?
Haven't tried RoL/Hipe on the new ones yet but as a quick guess, I don't think it would do too well against the new ones.

1. Akebono - probably you'll take a fairly high amount of damage before getting the combo set up, though you might not have too much trouble surviving that.  Lobo will take care of the normal momentum'd creatures for the most part but I think the real killer will be chimera as this could potentially kill you in one shot.

2. Eternal Crusader - As soon as he gets an Anubis out and quints it same turn, it's over.  From there, he'll just drop a pharoah, protect that, play scarabs, eat your RoL's, rewind any dragons you get out, and swarm you very quickly.

3. Hecate - Probably a decent chance here at least.  You'll take direct damage from the voodoo dolls getting LS'd or rage potion'd but can probably heal through that without too much trouble.

4. Jezebel - Highly dependent on what nymphs she gets here.  Dark, Death, Earth, and Fire nymphs will definitely hurt you if she can keep cloaks up enough to prevent you from loboing them.  Air nymph will of course almost instantly cripple you.  Otherwise though, you might have a very good chance here.

5. Serket - This one just comes down to if you can get Hope and at least 4 RoL out before taking too much poison and then get enough shards out in time to keep you alive through whatever poison you did take.  I have a feeling you'll take too much poison too quickly for this if you do manage to get your defenses up in time, he has no creature or permanent control so it'll be very easy from there. 

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Re: False God Farming Help would be appreciated https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21836.msg282085#msg282085
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2011, 01:05:09 am »
I see.  That's good news.  What RoL/Hope deck variation would you recommend?

 

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