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Re: EtG - Creation or Creator? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23919.msg305391#msg305391
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2011, 06:01:42 pm »
hmm... i think it's the cockatrice since fate egg is a much newer card. i think.
they were both original cards in the first version of the game...
so...
Well we'll just have to ask Zanz which one he thought of first while creating the game. Let's try to make that a priority next time Zanz shows up in chat. Forget the t500, this is important!

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Re: EtG - Creation or Creator? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23919.msg305393#msg305393
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2011, 06:02:01 pm »
Without SG's work to build the forum and community, the game would not be nearly as popular.

I say SG is equally as responsible if not more than zanz for the success of this game.

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Re: EtG - Creation or Creator? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23919.msg305414#msg305414
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2011, 06:44:15 pm »
now now we must remember that without zanz the game wouldn't exist in the first place. yes SG has put a gargantuan amount of effort into advertising this game but zanz is the one who created and gave a lovely finish to EtG. although as they say: the advert is just as, if not more, important than the finished product. Even if elements was a badly done game (as if!), if it were advertised well enough if would become immensely popular despite. but it has the best of both and thus shall prosper greatly. all it needs are a few finishing touches such as a scheme that involves far less grinding for new players (a hugely discouraging factor) it would rocket up the levels. btw does elements have any external adverts like the ones that border most web pages across the internet like Dark Orbit, and Adventure Quest, and other such games?

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Re: EtG - Creation or Creator? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23919.msg305415#msg305415
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2011, 06:48:11 pm »
Well we obviously know that the game came before the community, but the way I see it, the community is more of a catalyst for the game, if anything. We bicker about the game, what could make it better, what's making it worse, and other stuff, and then zanz just lurks around and soaks up all the ideas like a sponge does with water. He looks at them and says, "ZOMGWTFBBQ THIS IS AN AWEZOME IDEA LOL," "meh," or just "No."

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Re: EtG - Creation or Creator? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23919.msg305420#msg305420
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2011, 06:59:25 pm »
Well we obviously know that the game came before the community, but the way I see it, the community is more of a catalyst for the game, if anything. We bicker about the game, what could make it better, what's making it worse, and other stuff, and then zanz just lurks around and soaks up all the ideas like a sponge does with water. He looks at them and says, "ZOMGWTFBBQ THIS IS AN AWEZOME IDEA LOL," "meh," or just "No."

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well said...

anyway i suppose zanz does kinda do that. he still has less than 200 posts which shows he doesn't do that much interfering with all the continuous brainstorming we do. in effect we are all the creators. zanz just puts it into action. i mean, you have to have the people who come up with the ideas and then the one with the know-how to do it all. i guess SGs job is to bring out the best in us.

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Re: EtG - Creation or Creator? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23919.msg305922#msg305922
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2011, 12:58:34 pm »
the game came first, but without the community, it would just be another random flash game on the internet.
hmm... today, the game and the community go hand in hand. each cannot survive without the other. kinda like mutualism.

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Re: EtG - Creation or Creator? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23919.msg306037#msg306037
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2011, 04:00:10 pm »
mutual-ism... yes... it's really so well done that zanz should take over all the governments in the world and SG should run a forum to get ideas on how to run the earth. it would be peace all round. only problem is: what happens when war of elements comes?

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Re: EtG - Creation or Creator? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23919.msg306076#msg306076
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2011, 05:31:37 pm »
mutual-ism... yes... it's really so well done that zanz should take over all the governments in the world and SG should run a forum to get ideas on how to run the earth. it would be peace all round. only problem is: what happens when war of elements comes?
Then only 7 ppl from each nation go to war. So we save much bloodshed compared to modern wars.

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Re: EtG - Creation or Creator? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23919.msg306564#msg306564
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2011, 09:04:40 am »
Both Zanz and us make it 100% :D

Without this crazy community, I don't think than the game would go this far xD
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Re: EtG - Creation or Creator? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23919.msg306567#msg306567
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2011, 09:12:47 am »
Well we obviously know that the game came before the community, but the way I see it, the community is more of a catalyst for the game, if anything. We bicker about the game, what could make it better, what's making it worse, and other stuff, and then zanz just lurks around and soaks up all the ideas like a sponge does with water. He looks at them and says, "ZOMGWTFBBQ THIS IS AN AWEZOME IDEA LOL," "meh," or just "No."

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well said...

anyway i suppose zanz does kinda do that. he still has less than 200 posts which shows he doesn't do that much interfering with all the continuous brainstorming we do. in effect we are all the creators. zanz just puts it into action. i mean, you have to have the people who come up with the ideas and then the one with the know-how to do it all. i guess SGs job is to bring out the best in us.
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Re: EtG - Creation or Creator? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23919.msg306728#msg306728
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2011, 02:56:40 pm »
Well we obviously know that the game came before the community, but the way I see it, the community is more of a catalyst for the game, if anything. We bicker about the game, what could make it better, what's making it worse, and other stuff, and then zanz just lurks around and soaks up all the ideas like a sponge does with water. He looks at them and says, "ZOMGWTFBBQ THIS IS AN AWEZOME IDEA LOL," "meh," or just "No."

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well said...

anyway i suppose zanz does kinda do that. he still has less than 200 posts which shows he doesn't do that much interfering with all the continuous brainstorming we do. in effect we are all the creators. zanz just puts it into action. i mean, you have to have the people who come up with the ideas and then the one with the know-how to do it all. i guess SGs job is to bring out the best in us.
Please tell me you're joking.
no not at all. we come up with many many card ideas, we test different strategies, we record data to build on, we suggest changes in the meta game and cards, we discuss what should be next implemented into the game, some of our members even design the art used in the actual game, we give him loads of feedback on how to improve the game and make it more enjoyable, etc... the list is practically endless. sure zanz started the whole thing off but you can't make a really successful game like this all on your own. without the collective we make, this game would be still at ground level. of course zanz is the only one who can put the stuff into the game and fine tune it. he is the chief editor if you like.

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Re: EtG - Creation or Creator? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23919.msg306757#msg306757
« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2011, 03:51:10 pm »
Well we obviously know that the game came before the community, but the way I see it, the community is more of a catalyst for the game, if anything. We bicker about the game, what could make it better, what's making it worse, and other stuff, and then zanz just lurks around and soaks up all the ideas like a sponge does with water. He looks at them and says, "ZOMGWTFBBQ THIS IS AN AWEZOME IDEA LOL," "meh," or just "No."

:)
well said...

anyway i suppose zanz does kinda do that. he still has less than 200 posts which shows he doesn't do that much interfering with all the continuous brainstorming we do. in effect we are all the creators. zanz just puts it into action. i mean, you have to have the people who come up with the ideas and then the one with the know-how to do it all. i guess SGs job is to bring out the best in us.
Please tell me you're joking.
no not at all. we come up with many many card ideas, we test different strategies, we record data to build on, we suggest changes in the meta game and cards, we discuss what should be next implemented into the game, some of our members even design the art used in the actual game, we give him loads of feedback on how to improve the game and make it more enjoyable, etc... the list is practically endless. sure zanz started the whole thing off but you can't make a really successful game like this all on your own. without the collective we make, this game would be still at ground level. of course zanz is the only one who can put the stuff into the game and fine tune it. he is the chief editor if you like.
Over 75% of the new cards in the game are Zanz's creation. T50 is Zanz's creation. FG's , level 1-3 are his creation. Up and coming Daily quests, as well as T500 are his creation. Oracle and Nymphs are his creation. All the community has done more than Zanz is help with balancing (which is impossible to do by a single person, especially if that person is busy working on the game rather than playing it), bug fixes (same) and Trainer upgrades. Zanz is BY FAR more than a chief editor. More than a simple coder. He's the heart of the game. If you only had a community and a coder to do whatever the community wants, the game would still be in 0.04.
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