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Re: Epic 15x Marks of Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29166.msg372735#msg372735
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2011, 04:46:35 pm »
There's actually enough damage on its field+weapon for it to win even after the shards heal.
no there isn't...  some of them are stalled from the shield.
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Re: Epic 15x Marks of Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29166.msg372737#msg372737
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2011, 04:51:30 pm »
Questions:

1. Can those mark cards be destroyed with permanent control?

2. What implication does this have on even playing field if someone has marks of entropy and uses them with Dissipation Shield?

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Re: Epic 15x Marks of Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29166.msg372747#msg372747
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2011, 05:07:20 pm »
Questions:

1. Can those mark cards be destroyed with permanent control?

2. What implication does this have on even playing field if someone has marks of entropy and uses them with Dissipation Shield?
1. They can only be destroyed if they are upgraded marks.  If they're upgraded, they don't stack with the original mark and can be destroyed by explosion, pulvy, eq, etc.

2. In my opinion, it will still be fair simply because the person with the marks deserves them because the only way to get marks is by winning tournys or something.
or by doing something wrong with a reward code by accident...  which, would then be unfair.
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Re: Epic 15x Marks of Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29166.msg372753#msg372753
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2011, 05:27:05 pm »
Try facing it with Mindgates. You can then get more than 15 marks easy.

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Re: Epic 15x Marks of Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29166.msg372828#msg372828
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2011, 08:25:04 pm »
2. In my opinion, it will still be fair simply because the person with the marks deserves them because the only way to get marks is by winning tournys or something.
- It is not a question who deserves what. Some players have indestructible pillars and some players don't. That is by definition unequal playing field. I suppose you could justify this state of inequality by saying that good/dedicated players deserve to have advantage over those who play less. However, I find this justification dubious.

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Re: Epic 15x Marks of Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29166.msg372845#msg372845
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2011, 09:26:09 pm »
There's actually enough damage on its field+weapon for it to win even after the shards heal.
no there isn't...  some of them are stalled from the shield.
What I'm saying is that the AI would win if it played chimera.  The problem is that the AI doesn't seem to recognize that delayed creatures will contribute to the damage once they're absorbed by chimera.

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Re: Epic 15x Marks of Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29166.msg372850#msg372850
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2011, 09:37:08 pm »
There's actually enough damage on its field+weapon for it to win even after the shards heal.
no there isn't...  some of them are stalled from the shield.
What I'm saying is that the AI would win if it played chimera.  The problem is that the AI doesn't seem to recognize that delayed creatures will contribute to the damage once they're absorbed by chimera.
oh yeah...  that is true. 
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Re: Epic 15x Marks of Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29166.msg372853#msg372853
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2011, 09:44:24 pm »
Um.. wait a minute. It's AI's turn by then. There's 3 dragons, that's 24 damage. 1 Armagio, that's 26 damage. 1 Hammer, that's 32 damage against 31 health. Procastination doesn't block damage, so...
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Re: Epic 15x Marks of Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29166.msg372856#msg372856
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2011, 09:49:54 pm »
oh he said with even if the shards heal.  so, I calculated it after all the healing from the shards.   didn't realize it was the AI's turn. :P
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Re: Epic 15x Marks of Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29166.msg372859#msg372859
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2011, 09:57:16 pm »
Actually, the Gavel does 7 damage due to Gravity mark.
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Re: Epic 15x Marks of Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29166.msg372870#msg372870
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2011, 10:35:34 pm »
Oh whoops, yeah I didn't realize it was the AI's turn.  Then that means the AI plays chimera strictly when the damage (that it perceives) on the field is over the player's health?

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Re: Epic 15x Marks of Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29166.msg372875#msg372875
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2011, 10:40:18 pm »
Indeed, AI plays Chimera when it can OTK.
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