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Elemental Emotions - What's your take! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30252.msg384319#msg384319
« on: August 24, 2011, 09:15:09 pm »
So I'm working on something super secret and I need to determine which emotions fit best with which elements. For example, Fire could be Rage, Passion, Agression, etc.

I'm looking to give each element a few emotions that fit the given element best. Therefore I ask of you, which emotions would YOU say fit each element best?

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Re: Elemental Emotions - What's your take! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30252.msg384321#msg384321
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2011, 09:21:28 pm »
:life - Ambitious, impatient, enthusiastic

Just to name a few.
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Re: Elemental Emotions - What's your take! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30252.msg384322#msg384322
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2011, 09:23:41 pm »
I'm not sure how you'd classify "destructive glee" but I think that also fits Fire well.
Æther is definitely a proud element that likes to keep enemies at a distance.
Darkness is cunning and greedy IMO.
Death is merely spiteful.

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Re: Elemental Emotions - What's your take! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30252.msg384323#msg384323
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2011, 09:27:04 pm »
These aren't great, and I know some of them are really stretching and I just had no idea, but these are my views on the elements.

 :aether = Apathy.
 :air = Euphoria, maybe contempt?
 :darkness = Loathing.
 :death = Despair.
 :earth = Contempt, pride?  Not too sure on this.
 :entropy = Surprise, shock.  Either would fit.
 :fire = Rage.
 :gravity = Boredom maybe?  I dunno.
 :life = Empathy, friendliness?
 :light = Hope XD
 :time = Satisfaction, pride?
 :water = Indifference.

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Re: Elemental Emotions - What's your take! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30252.msg384326#msg384326
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2011, 09:43:57 pm »
WARNING: Wall of text incoming

H'okay. So.

Emotions could be defined in any number of ways, but I'd rather keep it vague for now. So if you don't believe some of the following can be considered emotions, please dispute. Also, some of these may overlap.

Aether...is a tough one. Higs had some ideas so I'll wait for her say.

Air is a no-brainer for me. Fickleness or Spontaneity -- the sky is the limit and all that. I think "spontaneity" might be a better fit because it's a more "neutral" term -- it can mean a good thing (inspiration) or a bad thing (lack of planning, etc.). I think Sky Blitz and the Dive abilities fit this rather well -- it's a sudden (spontaneous) one-turn-only move that doubles your ATK. I'm going to be using that word (spontaneity) a lot. You've been warned.

Darkness...I'd rather avoid negative emotions if possible, but let's say Fear for now. Our ancestors were afraid of the dark, because of the predators (or ghosts/demons/vampires/whatever). That or Ignorance (if something is covered with darkness, you're ignorant of what's in it). Fits this line from the game:
"Darkness elementals are masters of subtlety; they can hide, absorb energies and manage the creatures that dwell in the shadows."

Death is another tough one, but some people in chat came up with very good ideas, namely Greed, Spite, or Patience. Greed because it "hoards"...all things eventually die after all. Spite is more of an emotion than greed though, and could fit with the personification of Death. Eventually it gets its way. But IMO Patience is the strongest relation to Death -- it's a patient hunter, sitting calmly and waiting for everything in the world to eventually become its subjects. Death rushes notwithstanding, I think a lot of Death cards by themselves are more of the stall types (BoneWall, Boneyard, Vulture, Soul Catcher) at least because of how slow their abilities take.

Earth...now this could either be Patience as well, or Stubbornness. Earth endures, and so do a lot of its cards -- Stone Skin being one. That or Protectiveness, which can be either good or bad -- protective of your loved ones, or protectiveness of your own mind -- aka narrowmindedness. Protect Artifact, BB, and Auburn Nymph fit this description.

Entropy is another Spontaneity element IMO. It fits with its often fast deck types -- Nova/Supernova personifies this. But I feel like a lot of people will go with the more obvious Chaos/Randomness, though I'd argue Spontaneity is a more neutral way of calling it that.

Fire...Passion. Easy one IMO. Passion can be good or bad (the bad side being EtG's very own Rage Elixir which reduces HP). It's also often (wait for it) spontaneous, aka its fast cards like Immolation.

Gravity. Now this I had a lot of ideas for. Patience for one, but Detachment was more thematically close to gravity. It's always just doing its own thing, no matter what happens around it. But Higs pointed out that this wasn't related to Elements but rather real life, so here goes.
Gravity can be either fast (Momentum/Charger/Titan) or slow (Armagio/GP/Catapult), which someone pointed out in chat. The fast aspect I believe could be related to Determination, which can (like many of my examples) be good or bad (aka Stubbornness). The slow aspect could be Patience once again, or like I prefer, Detachment. I'll decide which later.

Life -- someone said it was eagerness. It could also be Passion, or Love. No big arguments for this really, I'll wait for what others have to say.

Light in Elements is sort of a "leave me alone"-type element. Sanctuary, Miracle, Angel...most notably, almost all of Light's cards have to do with affecting its own side of the field (save for Holy Flash). That could be seen as apathetic, but I could argue it's the opposite. It's focused on helping itself (self-improvement, something everyone should have), but sometimes to the detriment of others.

Time is once again fast or slow, like Gravity. Unlike Gravity though, I don't believe Detachment fits it very well. So I'd say it's either Patience or Determination.

Water is actually a tough one. I'd say it's Loving or Nurting, which unlike Light (which is concerned with itself), is benevolent toward others, but in Elements only one Water card fits that description (Purify). Looking at its cards, Water actually turns out to be quite the mean element. I'm not sure what to think here.

So for tl;dr:

 :aether = ???
 :air = Fickleness OR Spontaneity
 :darkness = Fear OR Ignorance
 :death = Patience OR Greed
 :earth = Patience OR Protectiveness/Stubbornness
 :entropy = Spotaneity
 :fire = Passion
 :gravity = Determination or Detachment
 :life = ???
 :light = Self-Improvement?
 :time = Determination or Patience
 :water = ???


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Re: Elemental Emotions - What's your take! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30252.msg384330#msg384330
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2011, 09:51:59 pm »
To all who put 'greed', 'loathing', etc. with Darkness (exceptions to Bhlewos, who used a connotation that was actually useful):

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Re: Elemental Emotions - What's your take! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30252.msg384332#msg384332
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2011, 09:53:04 pm »
Hmm.  There certainly is a broad scope of possibilities for :life.  Something I considered that integrates that sense of passion and eagerness associated with :life is zest...although the word is a bit odd and I don't know if it fits as an emotion.
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Re: Elemental Emotions - What's your take! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30252.msg384336#msg384336
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2011, 09:59:07 pm »
Zest sounds nice. It would certainly differentiate from other "passionate/eager" elements like Fire or Time.

Also, something that came up just now: Aether could also mean Creativity or Inspiration, what with its relation to mind (though Mindgate is the only card with that particular theme).

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Re: Elemental Emotions - What's your take! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30252.msg384339#msg384339
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2011, 10:00:35 pm »
 :entropy: Curious. "*giggle* I wonder what this will do..."
 :death: Grudge-holding- "One day... One day you will regret doing this..." Sort of.
 :gravity: They know they're right, and they know they don't have to yell because people will listen. Charismatic?
 :earth: No nonsense, not entirely sure how to describe at the moment
 :life: Excited, impatient, boisterous. "Come on guys! What are you waiting for?!"
 :fire: Rage, or something like"leeroooooy jenkins!" Going in and mashing everything to bits ignoring your own damage, or maybe being so mad you can only see where you should punch that guy next.
 :air: Whimsical, "whichever way the wind blows"
 :water: "Huh. I'll deal with it." sort of. It's adaptable, with pretty much rainbow synergy
 :light: Holier-than-thou. "Noob. Join light."
 :time: Ambitious, not really going to do anything though. "I've got time." (Bleh, there's already a deck with that name, sort of like that emotion/mood)
 :darkness: "Heh heh heh..." Sneaky evil prankster planning mood.
 :aether: They don't want you to have any idea what they're feeling.


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Re: Elemental Emotions - What's your take! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30252.msg384423#msg384423
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2011, 02:55:20 am »
 :aether   indifference, apathy, arrogancy, all-mightyness
 :air  freedom, anguish, nausea, easyness
 :darkness  fear, sadness, depression, respectability
 :death  boredom, uncertainty, feeling ugly, peace
 :earth certainty, trust, inferiority, solidity
 :entropy confusion, fun, balanceness, uselessness
 :fire activeness, agressivness, anger, enthusiasm
 :gravity stress, powerlessness, determination, safeness
 :life happyness, spontaneity, unconcern, feeling sexy
 :light feeling beautyful, devotion, love, creativeness
 :time dissappointment, limitedness, melancholy, nostalgia
 :water passivity, calmness, satisfaction, heartlessness
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Re: Elemental Emotions - What's your take! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30252.msg384427#msg384427
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2011, 03:11:34 am »
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Re: Elemental Emotions - What's your take! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30252.msg384434#msg384434
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2011, 03:27:29 am »
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Positive:
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