Electricity/Magnetism

[Demagog]

So if electricity/magnetism cards were ever introduced into the game, what element would they fall under? Air and aether have electricity in the form of lightning and thunderstorm, and magnets come from the earth. But electricity and magnetism are related, so it would make sense that they be under the same element.

It's also strange that out of the four forces in the universe (gravity, electromagnetism, and weak/strong chemical bonds [the last two may have a different name, but I'm pretty sure it's still the same thing]), only gravity is an element. And their might be more forces in the universe... those are the only ones I've ever heard of though.

[icybraker]

Aether, for sure. I can't equate magnetism with air at all. Chemical bonds are kinda... lifeish. Biological, at any rate.

[Kael Hate]

Anything that falls under a direct constant is Gravity. Thus Magnetics are an effect of the Gravity Element. How the Magnetics are applied would give it a different elemental activator or vice-versa.

Electricity is a different thing to magnetism. In the case of elements it is an Aether effect. It is this because electricity isn't in itself a physical thing but a physical energy moving between physical things. Its an odd answer I know. Might help to understand that electricity is physical mass under the movement of electrons and physical matter is defined by the presence of Proton Mass.

[Kael Hate]

Aether, for sure. I can't equate magnetism with air at all. Chemical bonds are kinda... lifeish. Biological, at any rate.

Chemical Bonds are anything and Everything above the single protonic mass in combination with another. In elements case every Element.

[MrSexington]

Aether, for sure. I can't equate magnetism with air at all. Chemical bonds are kinda... lifeish. Biological, at any rate.

Chemical Bonds are anything and Everything above the single protonic mass in combination with another. In elements case every Element.

I think he means Organic Chemistry.

(Which is still a huge field.)

[vrt]

It's also strange that out of the four forces in the universe (gravity, electromagnetism, and weak/strong chemical bonds [the last two may have a different name, but I'm pretty sure it's still the same thing]), only gravity is an element. And their might be more forces in the universe... those are the only ones I've ever heard of though.

Screw forces, Time is an entire dimension.

[icybraker]

It's also strange that out of the four forces in the universe (gravity, electromagnetism, and weak/strong chemical bonds [the last two may have a different name, but I'm pretty sure it's still the same thing]), only gravity is an element. And their might be more forces in the universe... those are the only ones I've ever heard of though.

Screw forces, Time is an entire dimension.

Screw dimensions. Aether controls 'em.

[bigbadbanana]

what would bose-einstein condensates fall under then? 

[Bloodshadow]

what would bose-einstein condensates fall under then? 

Er... Gravity? No, that's for degenerate matter...

[Kamietsu]

Magnetism falls under Earth. Electricity falls under Air. There is no full way to tell if Lightning pertains to electricity of artillery of the Gods.

[Sastrugi]

It's also strange that out of the four forces in the universe (gravity, electromagnetism, and weak/strong chemical bonds [the last two may have a different name, but I'm pretty sure it's still the same thing]), only gravity is an element. And their might be more forces in the universe... those are the only ones I've ever heard of though.

There are four fundamental forces in the universe:

Electromagnetism - This is what attracts negatively charged particles to positively charged ones. It produces magnetism, electricity, light, radio and other waves, and the chemical bonds that form molecules. If it's bigger than an atomic nucleus and isn't caused by gravity, it's caused by electromagnetism.

Gravity - This is the force that attracts matter to other matter. It's weaker than electromagnetism, but can be felt at extremely long distances. No one really knows for sure how it works, though we have a lot of crazy ideas involving gravitons, acceleration, and the curvature of spacetime.

Strong Force - This force attracts differently colored quarks together to form protons, and attracts protons and neutrons together to form the nuclei of atoms. It is the strongest of the four forces, but the range does not extend past the nucleus.

Weak Force - This one involves a lot of weird things happening to subatomic particles, mainly the decay of neutrons into protons and electrons. (which are emitted as radiation) Like the strong force, it can't be felt at distances larger than an atomic nucleus.

Both the Weak and Electromagnetic forces have been shown to be manifestations of a single Electroweak force, just as electricity and magnetism were found to be different aspects of electromagnetism. Most physicists therefore believe that all four forces are actually the same force, and discovering this "Theory of Everything" is one of the main goals of current theoretical physics.

Matching these forces to the "elements" in the game would be tricky. Gravity is obvious, and the Weak force's role in decay might fit entropy, but what about electromagnetism? Light would make the most sense, but as others have mentioned, natural magnets occur in the earth. Lightning is found in the air. Water is a molecule held together by electrical forces. It fits nearly everything. As for the Strong force, we don't have any element that involves binding things together.

I think it's best not to try and bring physics into this; that way madness lies.

[Kael Hate]

The four Fundamental Forces you have there are all quite debatable and could easily be said are guesses at how things work.

I think its fun to break things into kinds, describing the influence of the elements. An example could be Steal it has no physical link to Darkness, just that Stealth and to Steal is often related to Obfuscation as is the cover of Darkness. Another might be Miracle or Holy Light. Elements know no religion and being of a Light nature does not make something inherently good, but because Miracles and Holy blessings are often accompanied by the shining light of God in a literal sense, they have been linked to the Light element.