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Kuross

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Re: Editorial: My Views on the Event Card Drama https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14876.msg189740#msg189740
« Reply #84 on: October 31, 2010, 09:03:56 pm »
Pardon... but when did this change from, and I am looking at the timeline, discussion->petition->boycott->rebellion->revolt?

This seems to be getting a worse and worse label every 15 posts.
Discussion is one thing.

Petition is the mechanism to get other members on board with a decision.

For the purposes of this issue, Boycott = Rebellion = Revolt. No difference, no escalation.
Isn't that what people did, and in doing so, followed the rules of changing an established rule? That's is one, correct way of changing a rule in government. Nothing wrong there.

Kurohami

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Re: Editorial: My Views on the Event Card Drama https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14876.msg189742#msg189742
« Reply #85 on: October 31, 2010, 09:07:07 pm »

Pardon... but when did this change from, and I am looking at the timeline, discussion->petition->boycott->rebellion->revolt?

This seems to be getting a worse and worse label every 15 posts.
Discussion is one thing.

Petition is the mechanism to get other members on board with a decision.

For the purposes of this issue, Boycott = Rebellion = Revolt. No difference, no escalation.
Well, that logic is entirely nonsense to me, since the action is not even a "boycott", it is far from being equivalent to a rebellion or a revolt. What did I say about exaggeration? You don't (at least shouldn't) call a firework "atomic bomb" because people who are listening would get the wrong ideas.

"Prime minster, can I arrange some fireworks for this special occasion?"

"Of course, do whatever you see fit."

"Prime minister, can I initiate an atomic bombing of this meeting?"

"What? Arrest him for attempted murder and crime against humanity!"

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Re: Editorial: My Views on the Event Card Drama https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14876.msg189745#msg189745
« Reply #86 on: October 31, 2010, 09:11:35 pm »
It is very common in English to say that a teenager rebels against his parents. This doesn't mean he takes conscriptions, buys firearms and commands infantry in a parents-vs-kids war.

It is also very common in English to use the word "revolt" to mean to counter authority in a general sense, like saying that initiating a dress code in someone's office incited a revolt. Again, this does not mean that war broke out.

I think the semantics of this are pretty irrelevant but if you want me to use a particular word instead of another, fine.

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Re: Editorial: My Views on the Event Card Drama https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14876.msg189802#msg189802
« Reply #87 on: October 31, 2010, 10:45:23 pm »
It is very common in English to say that a teenager rebels against his parents. This doesn't mean he takes conscriptions, buys firearms and commands infantry in a parents-vs-kids war.
Perhaps it is used that way, but teenagers are never said to be in a rebellion.

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It is also very common in English to use the word "revolt" to mean to counter authority in a general sense, like saying that initiating a dress code in someone's office incited a revolt. Again, this does not mean that war broke out.
Umm.. very common is a bit of an exaggeration don't you think? I'd say it's occasionally used this way, and when it is, it's typically hyperbolic.

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I think the semantics of this are pretty irrelevant but if you want me to use a particular word instead of another, fine.
I think that semantics is an important think to resolve if effective communication is going to take place.

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For the purposes of this issue, Boycott = Rebellion = Revolt. No difference, no escalation.
This is akin to saying African American = Black person = Negro = N*****. I mean, they all refer to the same thing don't they?

Daxx

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Re: Editorial: My Views on the Event Card Drama https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14876.msg189926#msg189926
« Reply #88 on: November 01, 2010, 01:39:15 am »
This thread ends right here. Take further discussion to PMs.

 

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