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Do you want Shards to be allowed in BL?

Yes.
No.

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Do you want Shards to be allowed in CL?

Yes.
No.

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Do you want Shards to be allowed in PvP Events?

Yes.
No.

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Do you want Shards to be allowed in Tournaments?

Yes.
No.

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Do you want Shards to be allowed in Trials?

Yes.
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Do you want Shards to be allowed in War?

Yes.
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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1122015#msg1122015
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2014, 05:13:32 pm »
See what I find appealing about war with shards is the fact that certain elements have to get more creative to counter the other elements due to the fact that they have worse shards. I will note that darkness's best bet is to save shards until they can construct a pretty well balanced deck that can use the SoV effectively. Darkness is actually the last element I would want in a war with shards.

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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1122024#msg1122024
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2014, 06:08:57 pm »
See what I find appealing about war with shards is the fact that certain elements have to get more creative to counter the other elements due to the fact that they have worse shards. I will note that darkness's best bet is to save shards until they can construct a pretty well balanced deck that can use the SoV effectively. Darkness is actually the last element I would want in a war with shards.

Air would be OP, death would be OP, Aether would be even more OP, Earth and entropy would have zero use for their shards...
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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1122028#msg1122028
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2014, 06:19:14 pm »
Just to make things clear:
No in the above poll means only NONONONONONONO.
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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1122029#msg1122029
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2014, 06:20:42 pm »
Entropy could viably run a SoSebow, but yeah, Earth is essentially completely screwed.
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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1122030#msg1122030
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2014, 06:21:10 pm »
Hey, it is possible to use shards of other elements too, you know. Everyone would be able to use SoSac for example. Although Death would indeed be able to use them most, especially if shards follow the normal vault building rules.
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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1122031#msg1122031
« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2014, 06:24:17 pm »
nobody said you can exclusively use in-element shards. The only limiting factor is that half the deck has to be in-element, which will still make SoI kind of pointless.
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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1122035#msg1122035
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2014, 06:53:10 pm »
Even though I have a complete collection of rares, I still wouldn't like having them in competitions.

The reason is pretty simple: some people aren't as lucky as me to have all rares and it would be unfair, plus, some shards are really OP.

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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1122043#msg1122043
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2014, 07:08:33 pm »
2. I can't tell you if I like shards in PvP events, cause it really depends on the PvP event type.
3. Shards in tourneys are cool- sometimes. It wouldn't be fun if we can play Shards every time in weekly tournaments. (I know it wouldn't be like that...) But one tourney out of 15 with shards is okay. When people ask for more, then rather no than yes.
4. In Trials it was fun, but I would like to see shards only in the final match and just with restrictions.
Higurashi defined all of these as "yes" votes. If you vote no, then you are ignoring the intent of the poll.

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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1122051#msg1122051
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2014, 07:32:20 pm »
2. I can't tell you if I like shards in PvP events, cause it really depends on the PvP event type.
3. Shards in tourneys are cool- sometimes. It wouldn't be fun if we can play Shards every time in weekly tournaments. (I know it wouldn't be like that...) But one tourney out of 15 with shards is okay. When people ask for more, then rather no than yes.
4. In Trials it was fun, but I would like to see shards only in the final match and just with restrictions.
Higurashi defined all of these as "yes" votes. If you vote no, then you are ignoring the intent of the poll.

I know, that's the exact reason why I removed my votes for 2. and 3.
I doubt more and more whether the poll is useful. For example every PvP event should have their own poll then. Do I like shards in DoH? No. Do I like shards in TCBOO? Yes. In general I'd like to have no shards in about 95% of pvp events, BUT I have to vote yes. That's the logic of this poll how I understood it. Tell me if I am wrong.
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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1122075#msg1122075
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2014, 10:33:26 pm »
2. I can't tell you if I like shards in PvP events, cause it really depends on the PvP event type.
3. Shards in tourneys are cool- sometimes. It wouldn't be fun if we can play Shards every time in weekly tournaments. (I know it wouldn't be like that...) But one tourney out of 15 with shards is okay. When people ask for more, then rather no than yes.
4. In Trials it was fun, but I would like to see shards only in the final match and just with restrictions.
Higurashi defined all of these as "yes" votes. If you vote no, then you are ignoring the intent of the poll.
I know, that's the exact reason why I removed my votes for 2. and 3.
I doubt more and more whether the poll is useful. For example every PvP event should have their own poll then. Do I like shards in DoH? No. Do I like shards in TCBOO? Yes. In general I'd like to have no shards in about 95% of pvp events, BUT I have to vote yes. That's the logic of this poll how I understood it. Tell me if I am wrong.
I actually think you are right. However that only apply for 1 of the votes and not for bl,cl,war, tourneys and trials where it already been specified. Either way I think that if a big majority would vote no to shards in events I think most event would adjust to that and not allow shards. So in that particular pool I think another option should be added and some reformulated:

  • Do you want shards in an majority of pvp events.
  • Do you like to ban shards in an majority of pvp events.
  • Do you want to ban shards from 90%+ of the pvp events.
  • Do you want to play with shards in 90%+ of the pvp events.
« Last Edit: January 19, 2014, 10:38:26 pm by Blacksmith »
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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1122104#msg1122104
« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2014, 02:52:55 am »
Yes to all.
That would renew war too, I would consider joining.
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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1122180#msg1122180
« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2014, 05:01:01 pm »
Limited in CL, unlimited in Trials and War. Other than that, no. Nymphs should be in the same boat.
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