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Do you want Shards to be allowed in BL?

Yes.
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Do you want Shards to be allowed in CL?

Yes.
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Do you want Shards to be allowed in PvP Events?

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Do you want Shards to be allowed in Tournaments?

Yes.
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Do you want Shards to be allowed in Trials?

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Do you want Shards to be allowed in War?

Yes.
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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1123562#msg1123562
« Reply #72 on: January 28, 2014, 03:09:15 pm »
I don't know what BL or CL is.

If I had to vote on tournaments, I'd say yes, but I'm not voting because I think they should be allowed at the discretion of organizers for individual tournaments — the same way Upgraded cards are or are not allowed. For that matter, I think Nymphs should share that status: not allowed as a rule, but allowed in certain tournaments.

BL and CL are the pvp leagues.

Also, with your view, you should be voting yes-- Allowing shards in any capacity at all, including strict testing, is a 'yes' vote. A no vote means you never want to see shards in that event. No restrictions, no testing, just banned for eternity.

If you want a War to run with Shards once for testing, or with heavy restrictions, you vote yes. If you want some Tournaments or PvP Events to have Shards, you vote yes. Etc.
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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1123579#msg1123579
« Reply #73 on: January 28, 2014, 04:40:29 pm »
I don't know what BL or CL is.

If I had to vote on tournaments, I'd say yes, but I'm not voting because I think they should be allowed at the discretion of organizers for individual tournaments — the same way Upgraded cards are or are not allowed. For that matter, I think Nymphs should share that status: not allowed as a rule, but allowed in certain tournaments.

BL and CL are the pvp leagues.

Also, with your view, you should be voting yes-- Allowing shards in any capacity at all, including strict testing, is a 'yes' vote. A no vote means you never want to see shards in that event. No restrictions, no testing, just banned for eternity.

Thank you for explaining BL and CL. But I disagree about the vote: I think there should be clearer voting options.
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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1123582#msg1123582
« Reply #74 on: January 28, 2014, 04:55:50 pm »
I don't know what BL or CL is.

If I had to vote on tournaments, I'd say yes, but I'm not voting because I think they should be allowed at the discretion of organizers for individual tournaments — the same way Upgraded cards are or are not allowed. For that matter, I think Nymphs should share that status: not allowed as a rule, but allowed in certain tournaments.

BL and CL are the pvp leagues.

Also, with your view, you should be voting yes-- Allowing shards in any capacity at all, including strict testing, is a 'yes' vote. A no vote means you never want to see shards in that event. No restrictions, no testing, just banned for eternity.

Thank you for explaining BL and CL. But I disagree about the vote: I think there should be clearer voting options.

I'd like to kindly chime in here - since your opinion falls into the purpose of the "yes" vote on this poll, I'd encourage voting 'yes'.  Neither of us designed the polls so despite how we think they should be set up your stated 'no' votes seem inaccurate.
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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1123640#msg1123640
« Reply #75 on: January 28, 2014, 10:23:48 pm »
I read Higs post, but I think there should have been a 3rd option as "I just want to see the results of the poll," because I didnt want to vote for the war/trial thing because I didnt know too much about it. But I definitly wanted to see the poll results because I want to enter in trials, so if the poll ended up with 80% of the community not wanting shards then I would be making a lot of decks and deck ideas. But I realize you cant please everyone.
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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1123641#msg1123641
« Reply #76 on: January 28, 2014, 10:27:23 pm »
I read Higs post, but I think there should have been a 3rd option as "I just want to see the results of the poll," because I didnt want to vote for the war/trial thing because I didnt know too much about it. But I definitly wanted to see the poll results because I want to enter in trials, so if the poll ended up with 80% of the community not wanting shards then I would be making a lot of decks and deck ideas.

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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1123642#msg1123642
« Reply #77 on: January 28, 2014, 10:36:28 pm »
I read Higs post, but I think there should have been a 3rd option as "I just want to see the results of the poll," because I didnt want to vote for the war/trial thing because I didnt know too much about it. But I definitly wanted to see the poll results because I want to enter in trials, so if the poll ended up with 80% of the community not wanting shards then I would be making a lot of decks and deck ideas.

Then vote, view the results, and remove vote.  Viola! :)

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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1123644#msg1123644
« Reply #78 on: January 28, 2014, 10:42:28 pm »
What if all the tournaments had people state whether they would like shards or not in this tourny with there entries? The 70 people that voted won't be there in 1 tourny, so your getting the wrong people's wants for a tourny.
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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1123666#msg1123666
« Reply #79 on: January 29, 2014, 12:40:51 am »
What if all the tournaments had people state whether they would like shards or not in this tourny with there entries? The 70 people that voted won't be there in 1 tourny, so your getting the wrong people's wants for a tourny.
This actually seems like an interesting idea.

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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1123676#msg1123676
« Reply #80 on: January 29, 2014, 01:11:49 am »
I voted Yes for tournaments, on the premise that they be allowed sometimes. The core issue is that allowing them in all tournaments would make them even less newbie friendly. As long as there's a tournament or two stating "No shards", then the newbie still has a fair shot.
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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1124649#msg1124649
« Reply #81 on: February 03, 2014, 08:47:20 pm »
For pvp tourneys, I voted yes to allowing shards, but I think whether or not to ban them is really more a point of setting the feel of the tournament theme.
I think there will be a lot of times when banning them makes sense but it shouldn't necessarily be a default since tourneys are all about setting up new and interesting scenarios for deck building.

I do agree with some of the previous posts, that there are shards in need of balancing work. Putting them into their own elements has certainly helped a lot but it does suck for players that are just starting out when a rare and hard to get card is too powerful.

For that reason, its hard to put a simple yes or no for tourneys.

Tournaments aimed at pulling in relatively new players should probably keep shards banned. Tournaments aimed at veteran players, whom have had enough time to both collect shards and see them in action, can probably allow them in.

Lastly, I think that some shards are relatively balanced and innocuous, so why ban those in a blanket ban (i.e. SoSe, SoG)? Just ban ones that disrupt tournament meta.
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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1125086#msg1125086
« Reply #82 on: February 07, 2014, 02:24:52 pm »
Shards are unbalanced and shouldn't be used in their current state, Voted no for all.
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Re: Do you want Shards to be allowed? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53399.msg1126012#msg1126012
« Reply #83 on: February 13, 2014, 05:50:44 pm »
Voted no for all.

While I have full set of upped/unupped shards, I do not like playing with them in pvp. IMO, the most commonly used shards are OP in a pvp setting. I am of the belief that they should only be used against FGs and against arena decks (not in an AI arena deck).

While I could tolerate shards being allowed with restrictions in tournies, I do not want to play with shards in tournies. Hence the vote no. And I think shards would ruin war, at least that is my opinion.

Obviously, there is a significant portion of the community who would like an event with shards, and I think they should get what they want. I just think that most of the established pvp events are not a good place to start. I would start a new event entirely.

 

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