Dissipation Shield and sanctuary

[fbparis]

Just tried the combo Sanctuary + Dissipation Shiled ; I was wondering if this would make DS the perfect shield

But the answer is no, damages are finaly dealt to the player, so it makes DS a useless shield instead.

[CCCombobreaker]

Thank you for not posting this in the 'bugs' forum. This is a pretty well documented interaction that as you've noted is dissapointing instead of super awesome (ridiculously op). 

You may also be sad to find that with sanctuary in play solar shield won't generate light quanta.  It's the sad truth. 

But enchant artifact + dissipation field + lots of quantum towers = awesome.

[Zeru]

It worked like that in the beginning.

[dragonsdemesne]

I don't know if this interaction is obvious to most people, but it baffled the hell out of me for the first month or so I played.  I could never figure out why Dissipation Field worked for my opponent, but if I stole it, it usually didn't work for me.  (I had sancs in the deck :p

My initial reaction to how these two cards would have interacted would be that they both just work as normal, i.e. sanc heals 4hp/turn and dissipation field drains quanta to absorb damage as usual.  I never even considered that sanc blocked dissipation field from working because they were both on my side of the field.

I finally figured it out when, in (I think) my second tournament, I had a monolight deck with sancs and solar bucklers, and the first turn after having both in play, I got attacked and got no quanta.  I sent my opponent an ingame message saying something like 'damn that bug!' and he explained to me how the interaction works.

The other one that still boggles my mind is that sanctuary protects against silence, even though silence doesn't modify hand or quanta.  At least that mistake I only made once, since that little game graphic comes up when you try silencing a sanced player.

[petersenk]

IMHO this should have been changed long ago.. Sanctuary protects agains forces from "the outside" while a dissipation shield has internal acces to the quantum and can thus consume it. Everything else is just arbitrary nonsense. I mean, if Sanctuary protects also from internal quantum useage/consumption, then you shouldnt be able to play any card at all that costs some quantum. That's exactly why sanctuary should only protect against outside forces. Otherwise the rule is not consistent and thats bad design. Case closed.

[Naesala]

The other one that still boggles my mind is that sanctuary protects against silence, even though silence doesn't modify hand or quanta.  At least that mistake I only made once, since that little game graphic comes up when you try silencing a sanced player.

It does affect the hand. it makes it so cards cant be moved from your hand to the field. your hand is involved, so it counts.

[suxerz]

IMHO this should have been changed long ago.. Sanctuary protects agains forces from "the outside" while a dissipation shield has internal acces to the quantum and can thus consume it. Everything else is just arbitrary nonsense. I mean, if Sanctuary protects also from internal quantum useage/consumption, then you shouldnt be able to play any card at all that costs some quantum. That's exactly why sanctuary should only protect against outside forces. Otherwise the rule is not consistent and thats bad design. Case closed.

That's might be your understanding, and possibly does make sense if you interpret the word Sanctuary itself, but to me the card's description clearly says otherwise. Referring to card's description, the key word here is "cannot be altered during your opponent's turn". There's no inconsistency here. Sanctuary works exactly as how it is described.

[petersenk]

Fair enough.

[Wyrsa]

Aw common guys, its Ray of Light/Hope deck's favorite way to beat Chaos Lord... letting him steal a sanc, its hilarious!

Also on a side note, weapons are still absorbed even if you have a sanc. on your side of the field with the dissipation shield... doesnt seem right.

[fbparis]

Sanctuary surely is a powerful card, blocking silence / BH / discord AND healing you more than a SoG whatever mark you are... On that point it's pretty unfair Sanctuary heals 4 for everyone when SoG heals only 3 (except for Life Mark offcourse). Any chance this card will be degraded soon ? For example removing the "Heal" part or at least decreasing it a little.

[Djhopper :)]

Sanctuary surely is a powerful card, blocking silence / BH / discord AND healing you more than a SoG whatever mark you are... On that point it's pretty unfair Sanctuary heals 4 for everyone when SoG heals only 3 (except for Life Mark offcourse). Any chance this card will be degraded soon ? For example removing the "Heal" part or at least decreasing it a little.

It is a good card becasue it counters many common cards in the current meta-game. I think this adds something to the meta-game, whilst also not being useless without the thing it counters.

[Contrary]

Shouldn't it "protect" against Fractal also, then?