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Re: Did you know, unnupgraded decks can win in 4 turns too? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15586.msg199584#msg199584
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2010, 07:26:21 pm »
Pfft amateurs...

Mark :entropy
Go First
Nova, Nova, Spark (12), Photon (1), Deja Vu (1), Mutate, Amethyst Pillar = 14 Damage

Draw Mutate
Crimson Dragon /w Ablaze (14), Photon (12), Deja Vu (1), Deja Vu (1) = 28 Damage (42 total)

Draw Mutate
Crimson Dragon /w Ablaze (16), Crimson Dragon /w Growth (14), Deja Vu (12), Deja Vu (1) =  43 Damage (85 Total)

Draw Mutate
Crimson Dragon /w Ablaze (16), Crimson Dragon /w Growth (16), Crimson Dragon /w Ablaze (14), Deja Vu (12) =  58 Damage (143 Total)
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Re: Did you know, unnupgraded decks can win in 4 turns too? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15586.msg199677#msg199677
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2010, 09:38:41 pm »
Turn 1
Nova :entropy :fire
Nova :entropy :fire
Nova :entropy
Photon
Mutation :entropy :entropy to Photon -> Crimson Dragon 16|3 (max mutation attack boost) with 1 :fire: Deja Vu
Chaos Seed :entropy to CD giving Parallel Universe -> 2nd CD 20|3 with 1 :fire: Deja Vu
Quantum Pillar

Attack deals 16+20=36 damage
Gain  :entropy :entropy :entropy
Turn 2
Draw Pandemonium

Deja Vu Crimson Dragons :fire :fire -> 3rd 20|3 and 4th 24|3 Dragons
Pandemonium :entropy :entropy :entropy 4* Parallel Universe 5th-8th Dragons

Attack deals 16+20+20+24+20+24+24+28=176 damage.

So with some luck you can deal total of 36+176=212 damage by the end of turn 2! :P
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Re: Did you know, unnupgraded decks can win in 4 turns too? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15586.msg199684#msg199684
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2010, 09:49:12 pm »
Quote from: zse on November 12, 2010, 09:38:41 pm
Turn 1
Nova :entropy :fire
Nova :entropy :fire
Nova :entropy
Photon
Mutation :entropy :entropy to Photon -> Crimson Dragon 16|3 (max mutation attack boost) with 1 :fire: Deja Vu
Chaos Seed :entropy to CD giving Parallel Universe -> 2nd CD 20|3 with 1 :fire: Deja Vu
Quantum Pillar

Attack deals 16+20=36 damage
Gain  :entropy :entropy :entropy
Turn 2
Draw Pandemonium

Deja Vu Crimson Dragons :fire :fire -> 3rd 20|3 and 4th 24|3 Dragons
Pandemonium :entropy :entropy :entropy 4* Parallel Universe 5th-8th Dragons

Attack deals 16+20+20+24+20+24+24+28=176 damage.

So with some luck you can deal total of 36+176=212 damage by the end of turn 2! :P
Quote from: plastiqe on November 12, 2010, 07:26:21 pm
Pfft amateurs...

Mark :entropy
Go First
Nova, Nova, Spark (12), Photon (1), Deja Vu (1), Mutate, Amethyst Pillar = 14 Damage

Draw Mutate
Crimson Dragon /w Ablaze (14), Photon (12), Deja Vu (1), Deja Vu (1) = 28 Damage (42 total)

Draw Mutate
Crimson Dragon /w Ablaze (16), Crimson Dragon /w Growth (14), Deja Vu (12), Deja Vu (1) =  43 Damage (85 Total)

Draw Mutate
Crimson Dragon /w Ablaze (16), Crimson Dragon /w Growth (16), Crimson Dragon /w Ablaze (14), Deja Vu (12) =  58 Damage (143 Total)
lol, you forgot it's mutation, not improved mutation... just lol
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Re: Did you know, unnupgraded decks can win in 4 turns too? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15586.msg199689#msg199689
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2010, 09:55:49 pm »
Quote from: Krathos on November 12, 2010, 09:49:12 pm
lol, you forgot it's mutation, not improved mutation...
What you mean?
http://elementswiki.co.cc/ability/mutation/
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... 40% chance to change it into a mutant ...
... mutant will have its health and attack randomly increased by a number between 0 and 4, and can have the ability ... Deja Vu ...
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Re: Did you know, unnupgraded decks can win in 4 turns too? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15586.msg199696#msg199696
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2010, 10:00:31 pm »
Quote from: zse on November 12, 2010, 09:55:49 pm
Quote from: Krathos on November 12, 2010, 09:49:12 pm
lol, you forgot it's mutation, not improved mutation...
What you mean by that?
http://elementswiki.co.cc/ability/mutation/
FAIL :P
Anyways, mutation should be forbidden :D
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Re: Did you know, unnupgraded decks can win in 4 turns too? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15586.msg199698#msg199698
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2010, 10:03:45 pm »
Using Mutation is actually haxxing the RNG, so I don't think it should be allowed...
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Re: Did you know, unnupgraded decks can win in 4 turns too? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15586.msg199832#msg199832
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2010, 12:26:09 am »
Quote from: xdude on November 12, 2010, 10:03:45 pm
Using Mutation is actually haxxing the RNG, so I don't think it should be allowed...
Well duh, but the OP specified quantum generation haxxing only.  : P

Anyways, enough with the theoreticals.  Lets see some video evidence. (
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Re: Did you know, unnupgraded decks can win in 4 turns too? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15586.msg200089#msg200089
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2010, 07:31:18 am »
Didn't even consider Mutation... Heres what I have to say to that... Sic'em Kirby

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Lots of creative ways of trumping me coming out ;D

Time to see if I can do better. I thought I had you guys at 143, but then I found an even better way, 151. I lol'd too.
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5x Nova 1x Graboid 1x Golem 1x Titan (6 Aether Quanta)
2 + 5 + 7 = 14
Evolve Graboid, Growth Golem, Titan, 1x Adren on Graboid (7 Aether Quanta)
17 + 7 + 7 = 31. + 14 = 45
AdrenGraboid, Growth Golem, Titan, 1x PU on AdrenGraboid
17 + 17 + 9 + 7 = 50. + 45 = 95 (Yes I'm this close to a 3 turn win...)
AdrenGraboid, Adrengraboid, Golem, Titan, 1x Toadfish
17 + 17 + 9 + 7 + 6 = 56. + 95 = 151 8)
Taking down a FG in 5 turns is entirely possible, however insanely improbable.

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Re: Did you know, unnupgraded decks can win in 4 turns too? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15586.msg200112#msg200112
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2010, 08:48:17 am »
Meh, you're just jealous for not getting that yourself.[/sarcasm]

I think all these "random effect" cards should be banned:
Quantum Pillar (no special Quanta gain),
Short Sword, Hammer, Short Bow & Luciferin (no special Quanta usage),
Chaos Seed & Pandemonium (no cheap PUs),
Mutation, Fallen Elf ability & Fate Egg (no cheap Dragons),
Voodoo Doll+Gravity Pull combo, Mindgate & Nightmare (no help from enemy).
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Re: Did you know, unnupgraded decks can win in 4 turns too? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15586.msg200188#msg200188
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2010, 01:20:18 pm »
You could be spending time to do this on team gravity related issues...
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Re: Did you know, unnupgraded decks can win in 4 turns too? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15586.msg200237#msg200237
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2010, 02:34:01 pm »
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4xNova
1xAdrenaline
1xDejavu
1xGraboid
1xMonumentum

Damage Dealt: 10

Draw: Graboid. Split Dejavu.

24+8 (+10) = 42

Draw PU, PU Dejavu.

36+8 (+42) = 86

Draw: Mummy

36+8+5 (+86) = 135
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Re: Did you know, unnupgraded decks can win in 4 turns too? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15586.msg200278#msg200278
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2010, 04:03:21 pm »
Quote from: girlsgeneration on November 13, 2010, 01:20:18 pm
You could be spending time to do this on team gravity related issues...
Why do you think I'm so insistant upon using Titans :))

No srsly though. I've taxed my brain for this and the most dmging combo in 3 turns upgraded for a long time now. I think my brain will explode if I try any harder... back to gravity related issues ;D
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