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Title: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: Planplan on May 06, 2013, 03:04:25 pm
I finally managed to do custom realms trainers !

What is this ?
For the oldest, you might remember Chriskang and the few custom trainers he did. First are the custom god (a useless modification now with the custom AI3/FG option in the trainer), then, some custom realms.
"Realms" are custom rules that make the game significantly harder for us, easier for the AI.

I only have one realm redone, the "original" Entropy Realm. If I have a positive reception and Zanzarino cool with it, I might do other realms.

Here the link to try the Entropy Realm (rules under the game ads).
http://helltgivre.free.fr/elements/custom_trainers/entropy-realm.html

Bug could exist, feel free to tell me, unless those bugs are already present in the original trainer.
Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: Hyroen on May 06, 2013, 03:21:41 pm
Destroy 24 random quanta each turn?!

WAT(interrobang)


On a related note, much love and +rep <3

Good work Planplan, looking forward to that CI&A tool and to many more challenging (but not insane) realms.
Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: AnnaMall on May 06, 2013, 03:31:24 pm
Kinda wanna beat an FG with those rules...something tells me this might take a while.

Gj planplan, always a fan of your work
Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: Planplan on May 06, 2013, 03:38:00 pm
Destroy 24 random quanta each turn?!

WAT(interrobang)

Seem a lot to me too, but I kept the original realm values :P
Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: Higurashi on May 06, 2013, 04:31:57 pm
Wow. So many vets have been wishing for this for so long. You're still the best, plopplop.

And I wouldn't worry about zanz' approval. He's very chill.
Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: Regyptic on May 06, 2013, 04:37:38 pm
Kinda wanna beat an FG with those rules...something tells me this might take a while.

Gj planplan, always a fan of your work

Should be fairly easy in some cases. Take a normal counter against Divine Glory, he'll animate/replace the Discord then it'll just be like a normal game. A Poisondials mod might manage it against some of the others, or something with Light Towers and Sanctuary.

What kind of rules would the other Realms have?
Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: OldTrees on May 06, 2013, 05:22:26 pm
Thank you for restoring this old function. +104 rep
Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: Chapuz on May 06, 2013, 05:40:55 pm
That's amazing!  Maybe zanz decides to make something with 12 realms in a future
Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: Hyroen on May 06, 2013, 07:32:38 pm
That's amazing!  Maybe zanz decides to make something with 12 realms in a future
Would definitely be interesting to see fall in line with "The Trials"
Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: Kakerlake on May 06, 2013, 08:11:53 pm
Beating a deck with such an insane discord at the beginning isn't THAT hard... if the opponent plays another weapon in the first turn :3
if not, you rally have to hope for a first turn Sanct or a Shield that blocks that thing for a while. Sick thingie is sick.

I'm looking forward to see more updates. Great work Planplan!
Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on May 06, 2013, 08:50:45 pm
Thanks for bringing back this feature, Planplan! I can't wait to see more challenge levels like these made.

Any hope for a 'campaign/realm editor' so that less code-savvy users could also design realms?
Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: Acsabi44 on May 06, 2013, 09:00:19 pm
i managed to beat it with upped monolight, but it is quite a fun challenge.
+rep, my old friend :)
Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: TribalTrouble on May 06, 2013, 09:19:45 pm
Won a few times with Firestall. Light Pends Fire mark, 6 Sancts :D

edit: Oh and I also beat Lionheart with a quatro stalling deck I made. Dims/SoSaCs/LightPends + Sancts + Miracles/ Novas.
Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: Tirear on May 06, 2013, 10:09:46 pm
Discord always leaves one quanta untouched. This remains true even when discord is buffed to destroy quanta instead of scrambling. So, just play a deck that only needs one quanta at a time and you'll be fine (until the enemy plays a devourer or gravity nymph or...)
(http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w403/Tirear/ElementsEntropyRealm_zps3f2a4b32.png)
No, his dusk shield did not save him.


What kind of rules would the other Realms have?
There is a link at the bottom to Chriskang's site, which has descriptions of a couple more realms.
Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: Rutarete on May 06, 2013, 10:22:48 pm
That's amazing!  Maybe zanz decides to make something with 12 realms in a future
Is that a pun I sense?
Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: ddevans96 on May 06, 2013, 10:37:37 pm
Yes. Very much yes. Thank you Planplan :3
Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: TribalTrouble on May 06, 2013, 10:45:14 pm
That's amazing!  Maybe zanz decides to make something with 12 realms in a future
Is that a pun I sense?
Personally, I sense a new vacation spot.
Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: furballdn on May 07, 2013, 12:21:01 am
Nice job. I really liked the ideas of different environments and starting situations, so seeing this is very interesting.
Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: xsindomanx on May 07, 2013, 02:00:53 am
Totally awesome :) Will try it out a bit more when I get bored with grinding. Slight shame it takes so long to load :x
Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: Planplan on May 07, 2013, 09:03:44 am
Beating a deck with such an insane discord at the beginning isn't THAT hard... if the opponent plays another weapon in the first turn :3
I'll take a look at it, put the upgraded version of Discord, change the weapon priority maybe...

Any hope for a 'campaign/realm editor' so that less code-savvy users could also design realms?
It's possible to do, as everything... but would need A LOT of work (it's even more true with the way I customize the trainers), so I guess no.

This realm is also "optimized for AI with Entropy based or "friendly" decks. Discord is not the only modification, Supernovas and Chaos Power are also stronger.
If you have other suggestions or "balance" in this realm... Buff AI cards, or even nerf the player ones.
I think I'll remove all base FG to add the 3 present in the original Chriskang modification, but, thanks to new cards since version 1.13, new possibilities exist. Feel free to suggest new FG that fit in this realm.
Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: Regyptic on May 07, 2013, 11:37:05 am
Beating a deck with such an insane discord at the beginning isn't THAT hard... if the opponent plays another weapon in the first turn :3
I'll take a look at it, put the upgraded version of Discord, change the weapon priority maybe...
On a similar note, at the moment, the AI will animate the Discord if it can and when it's flown it seems to become just a normal Discord. It also loses its 'invulnerable' status, like a flown protected weapon, rather than like a flown Morning Star. I think it would be good if it could stay protected.

I think I'll remove all base FG to add the 3 present in the original Chriskang modification, but, thanks to new cards since version 1.13, new possibilities exist. Feel free to suggest new FG that fit in this realm.
This would be cool. Since several of the standard FGs rely on weapons and don't really fit the 'Entropy Realm' theme. It might be nice to keep some of the Entropy focussed Gods, Dream Catcher under these rules would be evil. It would probably be best to remove their current weapons though.

Thanks for all the great work you've put into this btw.
Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: TribalTrouble on May 07, 2013, 07:19:44 pm
Maybe a deck under the same idea as this one? http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,47267.0.html
Code In Spoiler. Might want to remove the 2 discord in there and a couple Nymphs in favor of more Maxwell.
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Title: Re: Custom realms trainers reloaded
Post by: antiaverage on November 25, 2013, 05:33:01 pm
Is it just me, or is this not playable anymore?  :(

Maybe needs to be updated in some fashion? We miss you PlanPlan!
blarg: PlanPlan