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Re: Could It Be A Real Card Game With Tools For Calculation? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48144.msg1056008#msg1056008
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2013, 05:10:48 am »
I'm still confused as to what you want.
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Re: Could It Be A Real Card Game With Tools For Calculation? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48144.msg1056015#msg1056015
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2013, 05:38:16 am »
We can use ordinary cards facedown to represent those.
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Re: Could It Be A Real Card Game With Tools For Calculation? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48144.msg1056020#msg1056020
« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2013, 06:18:14 am »
To represent what? Mutants? No, you'd need to use spare cards with counter to represent stats, ability changes, passives, and everything, or have token cards to write their stuff on. Cards facedown just doesn't cut it.
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Re: Could It Be A Real Card Game With Tools For Calculation? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48144.msg1056021#msg1056021
« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2013, 06:23:19 am »
I get that, but cards facedown can be the base on which the modifiers are based. It's much more convenient to flip over a card than to take it off the board and put a token in its place.
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Re: Could It Be A Real Card Game With Tools For Calculation? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48144.msg1056023#msg1056023
« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2013, 06:30:41 am »
Possibly. But writing on a blank token card would be easier than gathering all the counters, labels, and stuff you'd need to fully represent a card. Unless your card backs are undetailed, and you can completely erase what you write so you can't identify a card in later games.
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Re: Could It Be A Real Card Game With Tools For Calculation? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48144.msg1056042#msg1056042
« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2013, 08:53:40 am »
Creating written token proxies for mutants seems to have a larger than normal long term cost. (With the buying new tokens when erasing/rewriting on the old one is too cluttered)
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Re: Could It Be A Real Card Game With Tools For Calculation? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48144.msg1056079#msg1056079
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2013, 01:13:13 pm »
I've read this thread with great interest, it is a good question, but I personally don't think it would be really achieveable to bring elements to a real card game, there is just to much calculations and random generation behind all the algorithms that affect the cards, change their stats or special abilities that are difficult to reproduce. (For instance, as someone who plays a lot of :entropy I can't really immagine how a reproduction of something like pandemonium - that is pure random in what it does and to which cards - can be easily achieved.)
The idea of a device that could do a certain part of the calculations sounds good, but I'm not sure if that is really something that makes sense, I guess you end up having almost major parts of the game in the computer (or device) again and only a small part of the game would consist in really playing with the cards.

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Re: Could It Be A Real Card Game With Tools For Calculation? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48144.msg1056124#msg1056124
« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2013, 04:35:19 pm »
Ahh we have a Mr. 'NO I CAN'T MOMMY!' person. BECOME A 'YES WE CAN!' PERSON!!! BECOME THE LEADER OF YOUR OWN RAGE POT ELEMENTAL COUNTRY!!!!

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« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2013, 04:54:04 pm »
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April First is no excuse for that kind of language aimed at someone voicing legitimate concerns.
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Re: Could It Be A Real Card Game With Tools For Calculation? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48144.msg1056151#msg1056151
« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2013, 05:48:27 pm »
Ahh we have a Mr. 'NO I CAN'T MOMMY!' person. BECOME A 'YES WE CAN!' PERSON!!! BECOME THE LEADER OF YOUR OWN RAGE POT ELEMENTAL COUNTRY!!!!
April First is no excuse for that kind of language aimed at someone voicing legitimate concerns.
That is what I was just thinking too, maybe I misunderstood this answer, but if someone starts a thread with asking "could it be possible.." and the only accepted answer is the already predefined answer "yes", I suggest not starting a thread at all next time.

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Re: Could It Be A Real Card Game With Tools For Calculation? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48144.msg1056162#msg1056162
« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2013, 06:17:22 pm »
April 1st makes me more troublesome than usual, I apologize if that offended anyone. I just wrote what popped into my brain.

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« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2013, 06:29:14 pm »
April 1st makes me more troublesome than usual, I apologize if that offended anyone. I just wrote what popped into my brain.
No trouble whatsoever :) I didn't even mean "no you can't" just that I see it difficult without calculating lot of the game activities in an automated way (e.g. with the mentioned device), but I hope you guys come up with something.. it would be for sure be fun to play elements as real card game.

 

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