Frustration

[Djhopper :)]

This is also very true.
Playing plat, you not only get a very good amount of electrums and possibly an upped rare in 5-10 minute, but also a feeling of achievement (because they are easier than actual FGs in most cases) and you can't get bored because there are 500 decks to get randomly get chosen against

Huh!

[xsindomanx]

Sorry, now that I think back, what I wrote about platinum being easier than FGs seem a little bit invalid, but there are still a lot of easy decks in platinum, whereas the majority of the FGs are pretty balanced and take a while to defeat due to mix of damage, PC, and CC.

Is this still wrong? D: I haven't done too much platinum until I got instosis recently, as I was too chicken

[Brontos]

The funny thing about Platinium is how it changes. From one week to another, you won't win the same % if you keep the same deck.
Few days ago, I was playing with SoSa-neurotoxin, and got a lot of easy wins. Then few days after, it's like everybody and their dogs were playing Purify in their decks. Got less than 30% wins.

In fact, the only way I found to have stable good results is to play SoSe x6.

[xsindomanx]

The funny thing about Platinium is how it changes. From one week to another, you won't win the same % if you keep the same deck.
Few days ago, I was playing with SoSa-neurotoxin, and got a lot of easy wins. Then few days after, it's like everybody and their dogs were playing Purify in their decks. Got less than 30% wins.

In fact, the only way I found to have stable good results is to play SoSe x6.

In the very end, SoSa or SoSe?
I thought SoSa would be the answer, since its just an ultimate card against any damage, for a relatively small cost. But SoSe, if you were playing a rainbow could also use up the quarta and balance your deck more?

[Brontos]

I guess experiences are different for everybody because there are 500 decks updated frequently in platinium league. I faced decks that can beat me when I play SoSa, but I win when I play SoSe. 

For now, I stick to SoSe because its randomness makes it hard to adapt to.
And I have my SoSa deck for FG. :p

[Rastafla]

Before I go any further, I would like to say that I do agree that spins on platinum should always win. I know that I've felt this frustration before, and that it really doesn't help the game.
...
Hmmm... I don't really think that anything should stop people like me, with half upgraded decks, from playing platinum when we can win these special spins. If you can get the epic reward from beating the hardest difficulty in the game... Why not?

Anyone, you or me are NOT entitled to something good just because one of us managed to do something hard. Why? Because people of higher skill or wealth than you or me could farm the hell out of that.

Let me show you with an example which is stripped down of all nuances and specifics.

Imagine a MMO and a boss at lvl 60 with awesome fixed drop and you a lvl 10+ have figured out how to kill it with a little luck but it takes its time.
(compare to elements as someone of a slow and possibly unsteady deck that may, or may not be partially upped, can kill platinum/gold with a little luck 3+ times in a row)
Then some player at lvl 70+ starts farming and killing this monster at 10 or 20 times in the same time it takes for this newbie to do it
(A player with 15+ upped decks that slaughters arena over and over with little danger to itself)

Do you see the problem?

To explain it further :
The sheer amount of advantage the higher leveled/older player gains over the general mass of people will be in no proportion at all to time spent by the lower levled/newer players. There would be even huger gaps in wealth/cards. Thats why a good game got limits and chances. To ensure that people stay in their difficulty range and get rewarded properly for their range, or else the inflation would rise and the longevity of the game would come crashing down. It would be close to impossible to get new players. Everything would become essentially free.

This happens to several games. Where it takes a couple of weeks at most for someone with the know how to get from the absolute bottom to the top 5-10%. Its a dead end for a game.

[Brontos]

Hmmm... I'm not sure I got your point.

You're blaming the game to be too easy by letting us playing in platinium and getting rewards, aren't you?
You can't blame players for this. As long as I get electrums, fun and rewards in platinium, I will play in platinium.

But maybe I didn't got your point correctly. English is not my native language.

[oblivion1212]

Before I go any further, I would like to say that I do agree that spins on platinum should always win. I know that I've felt this frustration before, and that it really doesn't help the game.
...
Hmmm... I don't really think that anything should stop people like me, with half upgraded decks, from playing platinum when we can win these special spins. If you can get the epic reward from beating the hardest difficulty in the game... Why not?

Anyone, you or me are NOT entitled to something good just because one of us managed to do something hard. Why? Because people of higher skill or wealth than you or me could farm the hell out of that.

Let me show you with an example which is stripped down of all nuances and specifics.

Imagine a MMO and a boss at lvl 60 with awesome fixed drop and you a lvl 10+ have figured out how to kill it with a little luck but it takes its time.
(compare to elements as someone of a slow and possibly unsteady deck that may, or may not be partially upped, can kill platinum/gold with a little luck 3+ times in a row)
Then some player at lvl 70+ starts farming and killing this monster at 10 or 20 times in the same time it takes for this newbie to do it
(A player with 15+ upped decks that slaughters arena over and over with little danger to itself)

Do you see the problem?

To explain it further :
The sheer amount of advantage the higher leveled/older player gains over the general mass of people will be in no proportion at all to time spent by the lower levled/newer players. There would be even huger gaps in wealth/cards. Thats why a good game got limits and chances. To ensure that people stay in their difficulty range and get rewarded properly for their range, or else the inflation would rise and the longevity of the game would come crashing down. It would be close to impossible to get new players. Everything would become essentially free.

This happens to several games. Where it takes a couple of weeks at most for someone with the know how to get from the absolute bottom to the top 5-10%. Its a dead end for a game.

well said, awesome sir..
exemplification <--> awesome

*coughPrettyCommonInMMORPGWhereKitingIsPossiblecough*

Hmmm... I'm not sure I got your point.

You're blaming the game to be too easy by letting us playing in platinium and getting rewards, aren't you?
You can't blame players for this. As long as I get electrums, fun and rewards in platinium, I will play in platinium.

But maybe I didn't got your point correctly. English is not my native language.

he's saying that special spin isn't supposed to ALWAYS give you a card because that'd be too easy for newbies with, say a lucky RoL-Hope,
and that if everyone would be pretty lucky to streak at least thrice,  and rares would decrease in value because everyone would've access to
it easier...

i mean really, i think it's called "special spin" pretty much because you can respin the slotmachine individually...

[Brontos]

Ok.
That's a good point. Solid one. Nobody wants a game where everything is easy to get.

But, sincerely, it's easier to get money against FG than against decks in Platinium. Like a lot of money with less time and efforts.
And it's easier to get rares in bronze than in Platinium. I'm not even sure if I lost in bronze during the last week. I'm starting to sell weapons and shards like crazy.

Having a guaranteed upped rare in platinium wouldn't affect the game economy at all.

[ninetyfools]

Ok.
That's a good point. Solid one. Nobody wants a game where everything is easy to get.

But, sincerely, it's easier to get money against FG than against decks in Platinium. Like a lot of money with less time and efforts.
And it's easier to get rares in bronze than in Platinium. I'm not even sure if I lost in bronze during the last week. I'm starting to sell weapons and shards like crazy.

Having a guaranteed upped rare in platinium wouldn't affect the game economy at all.

Youre not supposed to sell ur weapons and shards! Shame.

[Djhopper :)]

Ok.
That's a good point. Solid one. Nobody wants a game where everything is easy to get.

But, sincerely, it's easier to get money against FG than against decks in Platinium. Like a lot of money with less time and efforts.
And it's easier to get rares in bronze than in Platinium. I'm not even sure if I lost in bronze during the last week. I'm starting to sell weapons and shards like crazy.

Having a guaranteed upped rare in platinium wouldn't affect the game economy at all.

Youre not supposed to sell ur weapons and shards! Shame.

Unless you've got them all.

[ninetyfools]

Ok.
That's a good point. Solid one. Nobody wants a game where everything is easy to get.

But, sincerely, it's easier to get money against FG than against decks in Platinium. Like a lot of money with less time and efforts.
And it's easier to get rares in bronze than in Platinium. I'm not even sure if I lost in bronze during the last week. I'm starting to sell weapons and shards like crazy.

Having a guaranteed upped rare in platinium wouldn't affect the game economy at all.

Youre not supposed to sell ur weapons and shards! Shame.

Unless you've got them all.

Except for that