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Re: Best Shield in Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9216.msg129845#msg129845
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2010, 06:53:16 pm »
Fire shield. Its fun vs hope deck or lava golem rush.     :-X
Until I deflag your fire shield with the 4 deflags in my T50 golem rush.  :))

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Re: Best Shield in Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9216.msg130679#msg130679
« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2010, 01:53:31 am »
Fire shield. Its fun vs hope deck or lava golem rush.     :-X
Until I deflag your fire shield with the 4 deflags in my T50 golem rush.  :))
And then I laugh in your face when I block all your damage with my Hope.

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Re: Best Shield in Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9216.msg130692#msg130692
« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2010, 02:05:58 am »
Fire shield. Its fun vs hope deck or lava golem rush.     :-X
Until I deflag your fire shield with the 4 deflags in my T50 golem rush.  :))
And then I laugh in your face when I block all your damage with my Hope.
And then I laugh when all your rays die because of my fire shield.

Dim shield - three turns of stall :)
Bone Wall - seven attacks of stall
Fire shield - deals damage.

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Re: Best Shield in Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9216.msg131017#msg131017
« Reply #39 on: August 04, 2010, 02:55:55 pm »
my top 3 shields 1.phase 2. bone wall 3. permafrost. to me phase is the best because it stalls for 3 turns and tht is guaranteed (unless stolen or destroyed). the phase shield is the perfect 'shield.' it blocks away all damage and does it for 3 turns. the other shields either rely on something (quanta, deaths) or let some damage in. i am being kinda bias because aether is my fav element, but i personally think aether has the best shield. if there r any downsides to the aether shield plz tell me :D

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Re: Best Shield in Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9216.msg131020#msg131020
« Reply #40 on: August 04, 2010, 03:07:28 pm »
i am being kinda bias because aether is my fav element, but i personally think aether has the best shield. if there r any downsides to the aether shield plz tell me :D
I can destroy your shield with: Explosion, Butterfly Effect, Pulverizer, Destroy (Mutant ability)
I can completely bypass your shield with: Poison, Momentum, Fire Lance, Ice Lance, Siphon Life
I can use your shield against you with: Steal, Steal(Mutant ability)
I can simply deny you from using your shield with: Discord, Devourers

^ These are some downsides to Phase Shield. :)

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Re: Best Shield in Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9216.msg131027#msg131027
« Reply #41 on: August 04, 2010, 03:20:38 pm »
i am being kinda bias because aether is my fav element, but i personally think aether has the best shield. if there r any downsides to the aether shield plz tell me :D
I can destroy your shield with: Explosion, Butterfly Effect, Pulverizer, Destroy (Mutant ability)
I can completely bypass your shield with: Poison, Momentum, Fire Lance, Ice Lance, Siphon Life
I can use your shield against you with: Steal, Steal(Mutant ability)
I can simply deny you from using your shield with: Discord, Devourers

^ These are some downsides to Phase Shield. :)
Most of those are downsides to any shield. (Immortal ones can't be destroyed, some shields reflect spells, but other than that, the weaknesses are the same.)
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Re: Best Shield in Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9216.msg131057#msg131057
« Reply #42 on: August 04, 2010, 04:16:38 pm »
i am being kinda bias because aether is my fav element, but i personally think aether has the best shield. if there r any downsides to the aether shield plz tell me :D
I can destroy your shield with: Explosion, Butterfly Effect, Pulverizer, Destroy (Mutant ability)
I can completely bypass your shield with: Poison, Momentum, Fire Lance, Ice Lance, Siphon Life
I can use your shield against you with: Steal, Steal(Mutant ability)
I can simply deny you from using your shield with: Discord, Devourers

^ These are some downsides to Phase Shield. :)
Most of those are downsides to any shield. (Immortal ones can't be destroyed, some shields reflect spells, but other than that, the weaknesses are the same.)
^ I realize this. I just wanted to prove to silverblack that phase shields have a lot of downsides.

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Re: Best Shield in Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9216.msg131687#msg131687
« Reply #43 on: August 05, 2010, 09:16:47 am »
Arguably, the stealing is significantly worse for phase shield than others. Although most people pack more phase shields in a deck than other shields, when you lose one to steal you can't do anything for 2 turns as well as losing 3 turns of your immunity. So whereas a full phase shield deck can give 18 turns of immunity, after a single well-timed steal you have 15 turns of immunity, 2 of which you can't damage your opponent, so effectively 13 turns. That's with just one steal.

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Re: Best Shield in Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9216.msg131747#msg131747
« Reply #44 on: August 05, 2010, 01:56:23 pm »

I can destroy your shield with: Explosion, Butterfly Effect, Pulverizer, Destroy (Mutant ability)
I can completely bypass your shield with: Poison, Momentum, Fire Lance, Ice Lance, Siphon Life
I can use your shield against you with: Steal, Steal(Mutant ability)
I can simply deny you from using your shield with: Discord, Devourers

^ These are some downsides to Phase Shield. :)
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actually they are not really the downsides to phase shields, but to every shield... so if u think about it phase shields are still, to me, the best :) because every shield can be stolen, and destroyed except for 2. (btw idk how to quote someone so i just make a line

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Re: Best Shield in Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9216.msg131801#msg131801
« Reply #45 on: August 05, 2010, 03:14:02 pm »
I can destroy your shield with: Explosion, Butterfly Effect, Pulverizer, Destroy (Mutant ability)
I can completely bypass your shield with: Poison, Momentum, Fire Lance, Ice Lance, Siphon Life
I can use your shield against you with: Steal, Steal(Mutant ability)
I can simply deny you from using your shield with: Discord, Devourers

^ These are some downsides to Phase Shield. :)
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actually they are not really the downsides to phase shields, but to every shield... so if u think about it phase shields are still, to me, the best :) because every shield can be stolen, and destroyed except for 2. (btw idk how to quote someone so i just make a line
Actually, they ARE downsides to phase shields. You announced out loud that there weren't any downsides to phase shields, so I pointed out the downsides. Honestly, you can't really say "____ shield is the best". Certain shields are better than others in certain situations. Fire shield and Thorn Carapace kill immortal decks and decks with small hp creatures, while they aren't as effective against massive dragons. Mirror Shield and Jade Shield are great against UG decks and Fire Stalls, but cannot match the stall of a Phase or Permafrost Shield. The reason I made this poll is to see which shields are the most popular in terms of versatility.

BTW, to quote, click on the "quote" button on the top tight corner of someone's post.

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Re: Best Shield in Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9216.msg131894#msg131894
« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2010, 06:41:04 pm »
I can destroy your shield with: Explosion, Butterfly Effect, Pulverizer, Destroy (Mutant ability) Nothing!
I can completely bypass your shield with: Poison, Momentum, Fire Lance, Ice Lance, Siphon Life
I can use your shield against you with: Steal, Steal(Mutant ability) Nothing!
I can simply deny you from using your shield with: Discord, Devourers


Jade Shield! I never really understood it until I used it. IMO on par with Permafrost.

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Re: Best Shield in Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9216.msg131913#msg131913
« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2010, 07:12:02 pm »
I can destroy your shield with: Explosion, Butterfly Effect, Pulverizer, Destroy (Mutant ability) Nothing!
I can completely bypass your shield with: Poison, Momentum, Fire Lance, Ice Lance, Siphon Life
I can use your shield against you with: Steal, Steal(Mutant ability) Nothing!
I can simply deny you from using your shield with: Discord, Devourers


Jade Shield! I never really understood it until I used it. IMO on par with Permafrost.
I play Jade/Mirror and then play Fire/Ice lance or Siphon Life on myself. Boom.

 

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