Best FG killer without Lobo/eternity

[Seph454]

Just from my 35 games I personal find it very beneficial to play alfa early against some gods.  As people have said its better to be up against a swarm of 1/1 rather than a swarm of beasts.  On top of that my shards can nullify a cell swarm as even if i dont draw a frost right away.

On another note I'm still struggling with my build a bit.  I'm debating FFQ or no?  Miracle or no?  2 or 3 Hourglasses?

[TheOwner]

2 Hourglasses, Miracle is a maybe I don't like it but you may, and I personally find FFQ to be helpful sometimes but it makes the deck to big and to susceptible to CC.  I thought we ended the Aflatoxin debate, apparently I'm the only one who has the twist where Aflatoxin after shield works best (yes it does with mine).

[MrBlonde]

I personally use afla ASAP as well. I also use miracle,FFQ and a EB... but what do i know.

[TheOwner]

Like I said I just find it helps me better to use it on strong creatures (delay) or not until shield comes out but I'm just me general consensus seems to be the other way.

[Seph454]

Right now the deck is wildly inconsistent for me.  I seems if I draw the frost/removal I need I never can cast it and vice versa.  I'm gonna experiment with adding a single rain of fire, I think that should bridge the gap between the frost, is cheaper than miracle, and is just what I need in alot of situations ive been dying in.

[TheOwner]

Exactly what are you using?

[rakankrad]

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the only difference from TheOwner is -1 SoG, +1 Improved Miracle because in my experience miracle helps a lot, and 5 SoG is often enough (4 is enough actually with a perma in play but you need some serious healing before you get a perma in play)

whatever you do, dont put bonds in the deck...it doesnt belong there

Hi, I'd like to know if that deck still works in 1.25, and if Mind Gates could be used in that deck somehow (if it would improve anything at all).

[kobisjeruk]

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i've thought about adding mind gate but i just dont see where it would benefit over any other card
one thing to note, mind gate is NOT a replacement for hourglass...its a 'win more' card instead of 'search for an answer quick' card

if you really want to add mind gate, i'd suggest looking at what it could replace
since it consumes a lot of , logical choice would be between quints and fractal
quints are needed against a lot of FGs so i'd replace fractal with it since fractal is also a 'win more' card (you might win without it, but you win faster with it)
but dont blame if your testing fail, like i said, mind gate has potential but the ccyb deck is solid as it is (the slight variant i'm using) even in v1.25

[eh pewwwp]

what can i replace shards/miracle with

[kobisjeruk]

in what deck? if you're talking about CC? Why Bother (ccyb) i dont think this is the right place to discuss it lol
you might want to check out the discussion here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,9545.0.html)
anyway, SoGs are vital for this particular deck due to limited cc capabilities
as for Miracle, i dont even use it anymore. most of the time, Heal will do just fine plus it will get you EM without having to calculate for weapon damage

[Demagog]

I'm pretty sure Nymphomania has no rares. That used to work well :-p

[eh pewwwp]

in what deck? if you're talking about CC? Why Bother (ccyb) i dont think this is the right place to discuss it lol
you might want to check out the discussion here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,9545.0.html)
anyway, SoGs are vital for this particular deck due to limited cc capabilities
as for Miracle, i dont even use it anymore. most of the time, Heal will do just fine plus it will get you EM without having to calculate for weapon damage

no im talking about this one, cause i feel his pain about lobo/eternity, and add shards ontop of that